ok got a question, 1st thanks to all input earlier, i am now in contact with two farmers here in wv that rasie highlands, farmer 1 ,has 3 , two cows and a nice bull, one cow w/calf poss bred back. other 1/2 sister to bull, good price, other farmer#2 has 3, two cows and bull the bull we could use a breed stock or beef him in fall, little higher than farmer 1 but not bad either, now question,i want to get a herd statred,at some time i gonna need a service bull, do i buy one or rent one? which would be the best, i rasie mules, so i have to keep my jack from my mares till im ready for colts, no babies in the middle of winter please, so i'm gonna have to control breeding of the cows also! by best buddy jane{ she got donkey fever too} have this donkey/mule breeding down pat. but we're all new to the bovine. we know when our mares/jennys are in full heat,we have it timed to the day, chart the cycles for months, her jack was born 1 day after breed date only then by 4 hours. we did good! got a lot to learn about momma cows. :cboy: thanks all Rose