Hermaphrodite heifer?

Lazy M

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Ai'ed some heifers yesterday. I was pushing them up the shoot and the tech was breeding them. After he bred one he asked if I knew that #16 had a penis. I told him that I wished he'd have said something before he bred her, but he said that everything felt good in her cervix. He showed me and sure enough she has a little penis looking deal poking out of her vulva. I had noticed it when I inserted the CIDR but assumed it was an unusually big clitorous (I told my buddy helping me at the time that I had always thought that these were a myth :D ).
Anyone ever heard or encountered this?
Any chance that the heifer will settle?
Even if she does calve should I sale her after weaning for fear of promulgating this if I retain anything from her?
 
I was just wondering about this about this yesterday!! I would definetly cull after her calf is weaned. I would hate to have that gene spread through a herd! Would she spread this to offspring?
 
Since I have the reputation here as the clitorial expert.....

I am guessing it is an unusually large clitorus. I don't want to go any further but some human females have a large clitorus.
 
inyati13":210e7rar said:
BTW: clitorus is the anatomical homolog of the penis so of a sorts it is a penis.

To meet the definition of being hermaphrodidic, the anatomy of both sexes has to be more fully developed than this case sounds to be.
 
Muddy":16bvnnww said:
I see no reason to cull her if she did calves.

NO calf yet. You mean if she does calve?

Agree. Cows have a prominent clitorus. I was ridiculed for posting that I stimulate the clitorus following deposition of the semen. In fact, clitorial stimulation promotes uterine contractions and enhances conception rate.

The size of her clitorus is not a valid reason for culling.
 
inyati13":yy8g135t said:
inyati13":yy8g135t said:
BTW: clitorus is the anatomical homolog of the penis so of a sorts it is a penis.

To meet the definition of being hermaphrodidic, the anatomy of both sexes has to be more fully developed than this case sounds to be.
Only one I ever saw definitely had both but the pecker was right where it was suppose to be....as was the vulva.
 
TexasBred":d1nqcd7j said:
inyati13":d1nqcd7j said:
inyati13":d1nqcd7j said:
BTW: clitorus is the anatomical homolog of the penis so of a sorts it is a penis.

To meet the definition of being hermaphrodidic, the anatomy of both sexes has to be more fully developed than this case sounds to be.
Only one I ever saw definitely had both but the pecker was right where it was suppose to be....as was the vulva.

Yep. How it would be.
 

Got a shot of the thing.. What do you think? I don't think that it hung out like this until I inserted/removed the CIDR.
 
Lazy M":1x5t54tk said:

Got a shot of the thing.. What do you think? I don't think that it hung out like this until I inserted/removed the CIDR.

That is not a penis as your AI technician stated. I don't know. The clitorus is in the proximity of the urethral opening. Upon spreading the labia of the vulva, you will recognize the urethral orifice and clitorus. That seems to eminate from that area but looks more like a cyst, polyp, or swelling of the mucosal lining of the vaginal wall.
 
On the freemartins that I saw a penis it was basicly a penis instead of a clitorus. The hair also sort of resembled a bristle brush.
 
dun":1c1nvizb said:
On the freemartins that I saw a penis it was basicly a penis instead of a clitorus. The hair also sort of resembled a bristle brush.
Wouldn't the vet have recognized it being a freemartin during the pelvic measurement, or the tech during the AI?
 
Lazy M":2smdks7y said:
dun":2smdks7y said:
On the freemartins that I saw a penis it was basicly a penis instead of a clitorus. The hair also sort of resembled a bristle brush.
Wouldn't the vet have recognized it being a freemartin during the pelvic measurement, or the tech during the AI?

I don't think he means that your heifer is a freemartin. He is saying that he has observed a penis on a couple freemartins he had experience with. Yours is not a freemartin.
 

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