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<blockquote data-quote="Elder Statesman" data-source="post: 578674" data-attributes="member: 7371"><p>I personally know of 2 and have heard from reliable sources of several more breeders who in the past have registered and sold 40+ bulls a year who are still members, but not registering or transfering any bulls. But they are still selling bulls. I know of a couple of others who are registering some of their top bull calves, but selling the rest as non-papered bulls. I'm not saying that I agree with this kind of thinking, but it is a reality and I can understand why they are doing it. And it is working for them, their getting their cattle sold and making money. That is the reason they are in this business.</p><p></p><p>As for some of the studies that have been conducted, it appears that politics again played into who's bulls were used. Or else not much thought was put into the enviroment that the test was taking place and where the bulls came from. It is some of these actions that cause trust issues between the breeders and KC.</p><p></p><p>Some of you have mentioned CHB and HerfVerified. It is going to be hard to build the supply line when they continue to try and purchased Hereford based calves behind the market. There are a lot more cattle out there that would qualify for CHB than most people think. But when a guy can make a lot more money selling them somewhere else, that is where they will go.</p><p></p><p>George, I'm glad I gave you something to chew on. I also try and keep an open mind and usually do, sometimes to a fault. But when a person has been involved in the fight for change and improvement for the past 15 years, you start to think its time to try another venue to use in the promotion of the breed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder Statesman, post: 578674, member: 7371"] I personally know of 2 and have heard from reliable sources of several more breeders who in the past have registered and sold 40+ bulls a year who are still members, but not registering or transfering any bulls. But they are still selling bulls. I know of a couple of others who are registering some of their top bull calves, but selling the rest as non-papered bulls. I'm not saying that I agree with this kind of thinking, but it is a reality and I can understand why they are doing it. And it is working for them, their getting their cattle sold and making money. That is the reason they are in this business. As for some of the studies that have been conducted, it appears that politics again played into who's bulls were used. Or else not much thought was put into the enviroment that the test was taking place and where the bulls came from. It is some of these actions that cause trust issues between the breeders and KC. Some of you have mentioned CHB and HerfVerified. It is going to be hard to build the supply line when they continue to try and purchased Hereford based calves behind the market. There are a lot more cattle out there that would qualify for CHB than most people think. But when a guy can make a lot more money selling them somewhere else, that is where they will go. George, I'm glad I gave you something to chew on. I also try and keep an open mind and usually do, sometimes to a fault. But when a person has been involved in the fight for change and improvement for the past 15 years, you start to think its time to try another venue to use in the promotion of the breed. [/QUOTE]
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