hereford sire

NCSU Maverick":3hy7r5gb said:
any suggestions on a heat tolerant, maternal type hereford sire with sexed heifer semen available? horned or polled.

Try jmsvictordomino, he is a member of CT. The Remitall Boomer bloodline is also good for high humidity, most Hereford ads here say Boomer bloodlines. I do not know if these are available sexed.
 
I know you can get sexed semen on MSU TCF Revolution 4R. He's the top registration sire in the Hereford breed at the moment. We're located in Iowa and our summers can be pretty hot and humid at times and we've had no issues with his calves not being able to handle it.

The Boomer line does produce some pretty nice calves but the tradeoff is heavy birth weights and calving ease is not that good. We had a bull out of the Boomer line once and even with some of our lighter birth weight cows were getting some pretty big birth weights. Anyone in the Hereford business will probably tell you the Remitall lines, especially Boomer who goes back to Keynote 20X is known for heavy birth weights.
 
I know you can get sexed semen on CRR ABOUT TIME 743 who is a pretty popular bull right now too but you'll probably have to spend some pretty big $ to get it.
 
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tja477t":38qe023y said:
that bull has a lot of Remitall Boomer bloodline in it too.

True but he's sired by Durango who is a breed trait leader for calving ease and About Time has been proven to be pretty good on calving ease himself. Plus if you are going to invest that much money into purchasing his semen you might as well be using him on registered Herefords. I've seen some of his sexed semen being offered around $300-500 a straw
 
MSU TCF Revolution 4R is being used down here also. There are 3 Revolution sons for sale in North Louisiana that are probably the best bulls on Louisiana's Cattlerange page. Using him requires a little more expertise because there are some issues with the rear half in that the hips can run substantially higher than the whithers.

The best Hereford bull calf I saw in person this year was from a cross of Star Lake Palliadin (Keynote 20x son) x a Boomer 46b daughter. He had a 75 pound birthweight, huge bone, and was growing like a weed.

The Hereford EPD's show higher birthweights and lower calving ease on Boomer, but in just one or two generations of his offspring the CE and BW has improved substantially. My thought is that it was less of a genetic issue if it was so quickly improved.

When you figure in Victor Boomer, 29F, and the rest of the Boomer clan there is a lot to choose from.

This is the bull I am using when I learn how to AI
RST Time's A Wastin' 0124
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The bull I referenced that we had issues with birth weights was a Boomer 29F son. His actual BW was 86 but he was pretty consistent with a lot of his calves being 90+ including a few well over 100 that when we bred those cows to a different bull got much better birth weights. Again, his calves had some nice thickness to them but between the heavy BW and the fact the bull himself started to become a pain in the keester with his behavior we ended up sending him to the sale barn after 3 calf crops.

As far as Revolution, lot of sons of his being offered but not many impress me more than Revolution himself. Rausch's have a couple that are close, they are basically Revolution with more eye pigment. Not too high on the Star Lake genetics, lot of heavy birth weights in that line and lot of people that were heavy buyers of their dispersal have wound up going out of business themselves too.

I do like the looks of that Time's A Wastin' bull, if he was polled would probably look at using him ourselves. This year for AI we used Revolution 4R, Hyalite On Target 936 and SHF York 19H Y02 and a Revolution son we raised out of a young dam we have sired by KJ C&L J119 Logic 023R ET. May have to breed Logic AI again sometime, the 2 females we have by him have been doing very well and have some very nice udders.
 
SPH said:
I do like the looks of that Time's A Wastin' bull, if he was polled would probably look at using him ourselves. quote]

You had me thinking about this all day SPH.

The better looking bulls coming from the horned programs usually have some polled in the pedigree. The name brand Line 1 ranches have been using them with good results for a few years.

So why are the polled breeders so averse to mixing in some horned if it will improve the cattle? Is it strictly based on the fear of the occasional scurs or horns popping up?

I know how conscientious you are about what you are producing so I hesitate to think this is a single trait selection scenario. What are your thoughts on this?
 
JWBrahman":7b4zr3ec said:
SPH":7b4zr3ec said:
I do like the looks of that Time's A Wastin' bull, if he was polled would probably look at using him ourselves. quote]

You had me thinking about this all day SPH.

The better looking bulls coming from the horned programs usually have some polled in the pedigree. The name brand Line 1 ranches have been using them with good results for a few years.

So why are the polled breeders so averse to mixing in some horned if it will improve the cattle? Is it strictly based on the fear of the occasional scurs or horns popping up?

I know how conscientious you are about what you are producing so I hesitate to think this is a single trait selection scenario. What are your thoughts on this?

I would rephrase that JW. I would say the better looking polled bulls have horned blood in pedigree. LOL sorry couldn't resist.
 
JHH I would rephrase that JW. I would say the better looking polled bulls have horned blood in pedigree. LOL sorry couldn't resist.[/quote said:
You will get no argument from me
:lol: :clap: :tiphat:
 
JWBrahman":oi5tc9ef said:
SPH":oi5tc9ef said:
I do like the looks of that Time's A Wastin' bull, if he was polled would probably look at using him ourselves. quote]

You had me thinking about this all day SPH.

The better looking bulls coming from the horned programs usually have some polled in the pedigree. The name brand Line 1 ranches have been using them with good results for a few years.

So why are the polled breeders so averse to mixing in some horned if it will improve the cattle? Is it strictly based on the fear of the occasional scurs or horns popping up?

I know how conscientious you are about what you are producing so I hesitate to think this is a single trait selection scenario. What are your thoughts on this?

We do have some horned genes in some of our cattle, in fact our herd sire while being polled is sired by a horned bull and out of a polled cow. We just do not actively breed to horned bulls since we prefer not to have to dehorn and our focus is on breeding quality polled cattle.
 

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