Hereford Flush

[LFF]

There is a cow that is having a flush right sold 11/24/07 at Ables Acres sell that I'd like to hear opinions about. She is lot 7 in the cataloge and if you don't have a catalog it is on line at http://www.reedent.com under Midwest cattle sales. Her registration number is 42348073. I do not plan on purchasing the flush because I currently am not implanting embro's. HerefordSire you might want to look at her for your embro program, you can buy over the phone. I am just curious about what other Hereford breeders think of the cow because I have prodgey from her.

Thanks,
Ken

 

[THG]

She is a pretty nice cow, but if I had to fault her in anyway, she may be hard doing, but I may be wrong. I have seen Able Acres cattle that were hard doing, so that would be the only thing I have against her. But other than that, she is a great looking donor cow.

THG

 

[HerefordSire]

There is a cow that is having a flush right sold 11/24/07 at Ables Acres sell that I'd like to hear opinions about. She is lot 7 in the cataloge and if you don't have a catalog it is on line at http://www.reedent.com under Midwest cattle sales. Her registration number is 42348073. I do not plan on purchasing the flush because I currently am not implanting embro's. HerefordSire you might want to look at her for your embro program, you can buy over the phone. I am just curious about what other Hereford breeders think of the cow because I prodgey from her.

Thanks,
Ken Laffoon[/url]

Ken,

Nothing about her makes my mouth water. I do not care for the dam's side. If she was crossed with a different dam, I could probably make my mouth "snake", a little, on my computer monitor. I am also turned off by the limiting to 1/2 of the embryos over 12. Nick The Butler risk is also present.

On the other hand, she appears to be a solid investment for the long term. She appears to have excellent mass and appealing coloring and markings except for the smudge on her rear. There is additional value if Denver bound.
:cboy: :cboy:

TY for bringing her to my attention.

 

[LFF]

Hereford I see Beartooth and a Butler bull in the pedgree, but no Nick the Butler. Did I miss it somewhere or are you referring the similar breeding the Nick came from?

 

[HerefordSire]

Hereford I see Beartooth and a Butler bull in the pedgree, but no Nick the Butler. Did I miss it somewhere or are you referring the similar breeding the Nick came from?

I must have made a mistake. Maybe I was inspecting her offspring. Sorry about the error and thanks for correcting me.

 

[LFF]

Hereford I see Beartooth and a Butler bull in the pedgree, but no Nick the Butler. Did I miss it somewhere or are you referring the similar breeding the Nick came from?

I must have made a mistake. Maybe I was inspecting her offspring. Sorry about the error and thanks for correcting me.

No you did not, it was I who made the mistake. Wrangler 19D breeds back to JR Nick The Butler. Wonder how many people realize that Wrangler 19D has a HY carrier in his pedgree? You know that Wrangler 19D was used in very many programs.

 

[CPL]

Would someone elighten me as to why it would be a problem to have Nick The Butler back in the pedigree and the animal itself is not a carrier?

 

[LFF]

Would someone elighten me as to why it would be a problem to have Nick The Butler back in the pedigree and the animal itself is not a carrier?

There is no problem at all because the gene does not get passed on to the offspring. I do not think Wrangler 19D is a carrier, because with as many prodgeny sired by him none are identified as being a HY carrier.

 

[THG]

Hereford I see Beartooth and a Butler bull in the pedgree, but no Nick the Butler. Did I miss it somewhere or are you referring the similar breeding the Nick came from?

I must have made a mistake. Maybe I was inspecting her offspring. Sorry about the error and thanks for correcting me.

No you did not, it was I who made the mistake. Wrangler 19D breeds back to JR Nick The Butler. Wonder how many people realize that Wrangler 19D has a HY carrier in his pedgree? You know that Wrangler 19D was used in very many programs.

Another bull I can't stand, 19D. I never saw any good out of that bull, saw some bad udders and bad feet, but other than that, well that was about all. No muscling at all, and he just wasn't my cup of tea.

THG

 

[1848]

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[1848]

I just realized you said you owned her. I suppose you can answer my questions... :lol:

 

[LFF]

I just realized you said you owned her. I suppose you can answer my questions... :lol:

I don't own the cow. I own 1 off spring from the cow. Please feel free to put your post that you deleted back. I thought that it was a very good post and brought up some points for consideration.

LFF

 

[Herefords.US]

I'm guessing that she's a little bigger than my ideal, but she looks like an awfully nice cow to me. Bred to the right Remitall bred bull, the offspring would certainly pique my interest.

George

 

[HerefordSire]

Would someone elighten me as to why it would be a problem to have Nick The Butler back in the pedigree and the animal itself is not a carrier?

There is no problem at all because the gene does not get passed on to the offspring. I do not think Wrangler 19D is a carrier, because with as many prodgeny sired by him none are identified as being a HY carrier.

What if the gene or gene combinations are recessive?

 

[LFF]

Would someone elighten me as to why it would be a problem to have Nick The Butler back in the pedigree and the animal itself is not a carrier?

There is no problem at all because the gene does not get passed on to the offspring. I do not think Wrangler 19D is a carrier, because with as many prodgeny sired by him none are identified as being a HY carrier.

What if the gene or gene combinations are recessive?

Recessive gene can have a undesirable affect. I believe that it takes the recessive gene in both parents to cause a defect. As many times as Wrangler 19D has been breed to cows that have Nick in their pedgree I believe it would have surfaced by now.

 

[CPL]

It looks like the flush sold for 2500.