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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 107020" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>I am not making the argument for shrinking mature cattle size back to 700 pounds. The beef market HAS changed and what worked 40-50 years is not going to work today. I was just pointing out that when beef cattle shrunk there was a reason for it; though like the whithers height fad of the 80s, show cattle got so extreme as to be virtually useless. Our cattle particularly frame score 8 mooses which finish out at 1650+++ pounds would have been train wrecks in the days when cattle were finished on range and wintered on crop stubble. I am not making an argument for short cattle. I have not run anything that small since those last aged mamas were sold in the mid 80s and I certainly would not want to send a load of those frame score 2s to a modern feedlot for 160 days (Prime/Choice Yield Grade 5s). I was just pointing out that there WERE positives like early maturity, early finishing, high conception rates, tenderness, temperment, and easy keeping to those kind of cattle. I couldn't winter 50 cows on the hay and feed stocks that my grandfather wintered his hundred on 30 years ago (of course the superior quality of the old square bale hay plays a factor too) and NOBODY's cows today are as fleshy in early March as those cows were.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 107020, member: 2095"] I am not making the argument for shrinking mature cattle size back to 700 pounds. The beef market HAS changed and what worked 40-50 years is not going to work today. I was just pointing out that when beef cattle shrunk there was a reason for it; though like the whithers height fad of the 80s, show cattle got so extreme as to be virtually useless. Our cattle particularly frame score 8 mooses which finish out at 1650+++ pounds would have been train wrecks in the days when cattle were finished on range and wintered on crop stubble. I am not making an argument for short cattle. I have not run anything that small since those last aged mamas were sold in the mid 80s and I certainly would not want to send a load of those frame score 2s to a modern feedlot for 160 days (Prime/Choice Yield Grade 5s). I was just pointing out that there WERE positives like early maturity, early finishing, high conception rates, tenderness, temperment, and easy keeping to those kind of cattle. I couldn't winter 50 cows on the hay and feed stocks that my grandfather wintered his hundred on 30 years ago (of course the superior quality of the old square bale hay plays a factor too) and NOBODY's cows today are as fleshy in early March as those cows were. [/QUOTE]
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