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<blockquote data-quote="Lane" data-source="post: 1147009" data-attributes="member: 14381"><p>I use a dog daily on my place and have bred and trained Border Collies for about 30 years. I would suggest that if you do not</p><p>have a dog training background your best approach would be to buy a started dog from a good working bloodline suited for</p><p>your type of stock. I would also suggest you work a deal with someone with good dogs to come and "dog-break" your cow</p><p>herd. This does not mean letting someone come and abuse your cattle, but to use strong dogs to train them to respect a dog.</p><p></p><p>A young, inexperienced dog can get run-off by mature cows that have never seen a dog. Training cows can be done in a couple</p><p>sessions with good dogs by gathering and holding up the herd. The dogs need to be able to put cows that want to "quit the bunch"</p><p>back into the herd and once they return leave them alone. If the group is really tough the dogs may need to bite most of the</p><p>cows a time or two, but they must not harass individuals. Once cows are "dog-broke" they will remember it the rest of their life.</p><p></p><p>To be successful in a real working environment a dog doesn't need a lot of commands, but you need control of the dog. Depending</p><p>on how you work your cattle will determine what type of dog you want. For woods or swamps baying-type dogs may work, but</p><p>they don't typically drive well, heelers are driving dogs and typically won't cover a herd well, Border collies are popular because</p><p>they can gather (that's their natural instinct) and they can be taught to drive as well as fetch.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line, in my opinion, you can't expect a young, untrained dog of any breed to be a lot of help and putting a young dog in</p><p>bad situations too many times will take strength out of them that you can never put back.</p><p></p><p>To answer your other question, I am in Louisiana and its hot, the length of hair or breed of dog does not make as much difference</p><p>as the nature of the individual. A pup that is "wrapped too tight" will burn himself out much quicker. </p><p></p><p>If I can be any more help, just ask. By the way, Len Dalton passed away last year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lane, post: 1147009, member: 14381"] I use a dog daily on my place and have bred and trained Border Collies for about 30 years. I would suggest that if you do not have a dog training background your best approach would be to buy a started dog from a good working bloodline suited for your type of stock. I would also suggest you work a deal with someone with good dogs to come and "dog-break" your cow herd. This does not mean letting someone come and abuse your cattle, but to use strong dogs to train them to respect a dog. A young, inexperienced dog can get run-off by mature cows that have never seen a dog. Training cows can be done in a couple sessions with good dogs by gathering and holding up the herd. The dogs need to be able to put cows that want to "quit the bunch" back into the herd and once they return leave them alone. If the group is really tough the dogs may need to bite most of the cows a time or two, but they must not harass individuals. Once cows are "dog-broke" they will remember it the rest of their life. To be successful in a real working environment a dog doesn't need a lot of commands, but you need control of the dog. Depending on how you work your cattle will determine what type of dog you want. For woods or swamps baying-type dogs may work, but they don't typically drive well, heelers are driving dogs and typically won't cover a herd well, Border collies are popular because they can gather (that's their natural instinct) and they can be taught to drive as well as fetch. Bottom line, in my opinion, you can't expect a young, untrained dog of any breed to be a lot of help and putting a young dog in bad situations too many times will take strength out of them that you can never put back. To answer your other question, I am in Louisiana and its hot, the length of hair or breed of dog does not make as much difference as the nature of the individual. A pup that is "wrapped too tight" will burn himself out much quicker. If I can be any more help, just ask. By the way, Len Dalton passed away last year. [/QUOTE]
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