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<blockquote data-quote="Wisteria Farms" data-source="post: 803487" data-attributes="member: 6734"><p>Hi everyone... I really need some "expert" advice... Here's why:</p><p>I have a friend who has recently lost a 5 year old cow AND her calf. The stumper is that the calf was 8 months old and weaned off the cow for approx. 2 months.</p><p>He brought these cattle in from another herd... they've been on his place (I'm guessing) a year. I don't think there was any cattle there prior to these.</p><p></p><p>This cow apparently looked good going into spring and for most of the summer... he said she had gradually started losing weight and then died. The calf then got sick and died as well (I don't think the deaths were too far apart). Is there anything the cow might have passed on to the calf through the milk? He said the calf had been off the cow for approx. 2 months so this would be something that the calf contracted maybe just prior to weaning?</p><p></p><p>Could this otherwise healthy cow have contracted something during hauling (I think they hired someone to haul these cattle when they bought them). </p><p></p><p>WHAT diseases could have caused this? He had Johnes (sp?) suggested...but can anyone offer any input? For this to have killed the cow AND the calf, I'm wondering what diseases might be easily passed from one to the other...I know the calves will eat what "mom" eats so could there be something in his pasture that could have killed them both? :???: </p><p></p><p>I asked if any other cattle were affected... he said he had one other cow who had slipped a calf earlier in the year who was starting to look bad...the vet had come out and tried to get her to flush but he's not sure that she actually did flush completely. I told him I thought it would be a good idea to give THAT cow a good strong round of antibiotics but I'm worried he might have some disease going on there. I forgot to ask him if he followed a vaccination program but I'm guessing he doesn't...</p><p></p><p>This friend is Amish and cannot use the internet so I am going to send him the replies I get just to help him make sense of what happened so please be considerate with your answers...I explained to him that this website is filled with really good cattlemen (and women!) with lots more experience than ME who will offer some suggestions. I know you will suggest he have the calf posted... I think its too late for that... Thanks so much for your kindness...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wisteria Farms, post: 803487, member: 6734"] Hi everyone... I really need some "expert" advice... Here's why: I have a friend who has recently lost a 5 year old cow AND her calf. The stumper is that the calf was 8 months old and weaned off the cow for approx. 2 months. He brought these cattle in from another herd... they've been on his place (I'm guessing) a year. I don't think there was any cattle there prior to these. This cow apparently looked good going into spring and for most of the summer... he said she had gradually started losing weight and then died. The calf then got sick and died as well (I don't think the deaths were too far apart). Is there anything the cow might have passed on to the calf through the milk? He said the calf had been off the cow for approx. 2 months so this would be something that the calf contracted maybe just prior to weaning? Could this otherwise healthy cow have contracted something during hauling (I think they hired someone to haul these cattle when they bought them). WHAT diseases could have caused this? He had Johnes (sp?) suggested...but can anyone offer any input? For this to have killed the cow AND the calf, I'm wondering what diseases might be easily passed from one to the other...I know the calves will eat what "mom" eats so could there be something in his pasture that could have killed them both? :???: I asked if any other cattle were affected... he said he had one other cow who had slipped a calf earlier in the year who was starting to look bad...the vet had come out and tried to get her to flush but he's not sure that she actually did flush completely. I told him I thought it would be a good idea to give THAT cow a good strong round of antibiotics but I'm worried he might have some disease going on there. I forgot to ask him if he followed a vaccination program but I'm guessing he doesn't... This friend is Amish and cannot use the internet so I am going to send him the replies I get just to help him make sense of what happened so please be considerate with your answers...I explained to him that this website is filled with really good cattlemen (and women!) with lots more experience than ME who will offer some suggestions. I know you will suggest he have the calf posted... I think its too late for that... Thanks so much for your kindness... [/QUOTE]
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