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<blockquote data-quote="brihop" data-source="post: 946411" data-attributes="member: 18530"><p>LH vs. BR is a no brainer question to most in the south. I would choose a high percentage brahman cow over a longhorn any day for a heat tolerant & good foraging brood cow. I think most others would agree. Many benefits with BR over LH, besides calf color & not having those big obstacles attached to their head... cows with good BR influence are very hardy, tick resistant can regulate size of calf and provide good milk.</p><p></p><p>What I don't understand is why many producers are breeding down the % BR in their herds, to levels that seem too low to me. They're taking Gerts and Brafs and breeding them to RA and Gelb, resulting in offspring that carry 50% of the 3/8 brahman composite (Gert/Braf) blood, which boils down to only 12.5% BR. However, it seems that 25% BR would be the minimum to get enough heat tolerance and other benefits. </p><p></p><p>Large producer example: </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.king-ranch.com/santa_cruz.html" target="_blank">http://www.king-ranch.com/santa_cruz.html</a> </p><p></p><p>The big producers that are centered around one composite, (like King with Gerts or Adams with Brafords), could instead just breed their 3/8 BR composites to Balancer bulls and then put the resulting select bull offspring back over their 3/8 composite cows. This would give them a new composite that is centered around their main breed but tones down the BR to 28%, which would be closer to what the market prefers for carcass quality, while at the same time still being pretty hardy & functional.</p><p></p><p>However, aside from large producers centered around one brahman influenced composite breed... IMO, the best composite using these breeds would be achieved by putting Gelb bulls over Gert cows to produce Gelb/Gert cross bulls to be bred to Red Brangus cows. The resulting offspring would be 1/4 Gelb, 1/4 Gert and 1/2 Red Brangus. The blend would be 41% Angus, 31% Gelb and 28% BR. The BR influence from stabilized genetics would be just enough, good hybrid vigor would be achieved, calves would be homogenous and the ear would be toned down a bit compared to the usual 3/8 or 37.5% BR composite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brihop, post: 946411, member: 18530"] LH vs. BR is a no brainer question to most in the south. I would choose a high percentage brahman cow over a longhorn any day for a heat tolerant & good foraging brood cow. I think most others would agree. Many benefits with BR over LH, besides calf color & not having those big obstacles attached to their head... cows with good BR influence are very hardy, tick resistant can regulate size of calf and provide good milk. What I don't understand is why many producers are breeding down the % BR in their herds, to levels that seem too low to me. They're taking Gerts and Brafs and breeding them to RA and Gelb, resulting in offspring that carry 50% of the 3/8 brahman composite (Gert/Braf) blood, which boils down to only 12.5% BR. However, it seems that 25% BR would be the minimum to get enough heat tolerance and other benefits. Large producer example: [url=http://www.king-ranch.com/santa_cruz.html]http://www.king-ranch.com/santa_cruz.html[/url] The big producers that are centered around one composite, (like King with Gerts or Adams with Brafords), could instead just breed their 3/8 BR composites to Balancer bulls and then put the resulting select bull offspring back over their 3/8 composite cows. This would give them a new composite that is centered around their main breed but tones down the BR to 28%, which would be closer to what the market prefers for carcass quality, while at the same time still being pretty hardy & functional. However, aside from large producers centered around one brahman influenced composite breed... IMO, the best composite using these breeds would be achieved by putting Gelb bulls over Gert cows to produce Gelb/Gert cross bulls to be bred to Red Brangus cows. The resulting offspring would be 1/4 Gelb, 1/4 Gert and 1/2 Red Brangus. The blend would be 41% Angus, 31% Gelb and 28% BR. The BR influence from stabilized genetics would be just enough, good hybrid vigor would be achieved, calves would be homogenous and the ear would be toned down a bit compared to the usual 3/8 or 37.5% BR composite. [/QUOTE]
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