Arnold Ziffle":5tlcr82l said:
Good for you BHB. Hope you got lots of nickels.
My clients tell me that Chesapeake, Petrohawk and probably others are spending like crazy for leases in the Haynesville. Have heard of folks getting $7,000 to $10,000 bonus per mineral acre with 25% royalty. Probably even more the closer they are to the sweet spot. Barnet, Fayetteville, Haynesville in Tex-Ark-La and now Bakken in N. Dakota --- sure makes me wish I had some shale play acreage.
Your hearsay is fact. My piddly cotton patch wells are around 10,600'. The pugh clauses in my leases allowed me to let properties 100 feet deeper than the deepest well, once existing leases lapsed. The Hayesville is around 13,000'. So I was only leasing the bottom end (below 10,700")
Some of my aunts and uncles let theirs for $250 an acre and 20% with the old lease holder and they would not listen to me. The land man stroked their ego, bought them dinner and told them I didn't know the business. He drove a wedge into the family. One old uncle hung with me as did my siblings and cousins. It gave me a bigger bargaining chip.
After 5 years of playing in the Barnett, I know enough about the business to know that I don't know enough. But I have a BIL petro attorney and I have a cousin on the other side who is in the business. That is why I had the pugh clause in the first place.
The aunts and uncles that went against me lost just over $3/4 million and 5% royalty too. It breaks my heart. They could use the nickels. The land man swindled them.
He convinced them that they drove a hard bargain at 20% and $250.
If they hit more hot wells closer to properties I have not let yet, the price of poker will go up. I don't own any of the land in those plays, only minerals. I am going to sit tight and keep hanging up the phone when the land men call.
Arnold, if I were letting the cotton valley AND the Haynesville below that, There is no way I'd accept 25% and the numbers you stated.