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<blockquote data-quote="Alan" data-source="post: 482503" data-attributes="member: 378"><p>I haven't had time to post, let alone spend much time at the computer lately, but this one has me taking another look. Some of you folks are still missing the point of my original post. This post is not about supply and demand, or about real, legit, hay shortages.... it's about manufactured (made up) hay shortages for the purpose of running up hay prices. I have no doubt, I can do the math, that baling your own hay is not cost effective, unless you can do several hundred ton. It's not about stocking up for the winter, I have always done that. Again, when I originally posted last spring on this subject, it was about some of my previous hay suppliers refusing to sell to anyone so they can hope to charge more when folks got low. In our area we do not have a hay shortage, we did the year before, which is what inspired these guys greed. They sold that years hay at what they considered to be a fair price and by Feb. folks where giving top $ for floor sweepings. Not this year, we had a good spring and yeild a good crop of hay. I'm still finding plenty of $60 to $65 per ton hay (grass/alfalfa mix) at our local exporter. I bought 10 tons last month and 4 more tons a week ago. Out here we are a little more than half way through winter and I have plenty of hay, no thanks to the greed of some of out local producers.</p><p></p><p>Again, this is not about the cost of producing hay or legit hay shortages. It's about producers creating a fake hay shortage.</p><p></p><p>To answer a question, no I would not hang on to my cattle to hope to create the price to go up, I don't think many hay producers can control the market price of hay on their own.</p><p></p><p>One bit of good info I did get out of this post was when someone said that the horse owners can be blamed for some of the pricing of small bales. It turned on a light for my thoughts on this subject and I own horses... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> </p><p></p><p>Alan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alan, post: 482503, member: 378"] I haven't had time to post, let alone spend much time at the computer lately, but this one has me taking another look. Some of you folks are still missing the point of my original post. This post is not about supply and demand, or about real, legit, hay shortages.... it's about manufactured (made up) hay shortages for the purpose of running up hay prices. I have no doubt, I can do the math, that baling your own hay is not cost effective, unless you can do several hundred ton. It's not about stocking up for the winter, I have always done that. Again, when I originally posted last spring on this subject, it was about some of my previous hay suppliers refusing to sell to anyone so they can hope to charge more when folks got low. In our area we do not have a hay shortage, we did the year before, which is what inspired these guys greed. They sold that years hay at what they considered to be a fair price and by Feb. folks where giving top $ for floor sweepings. Not this year, we had a good spring and yeild a good crop of hay. I'm still finding plenty of $60 to $65 per ton hay (grass/alfalfa mix) at our local exporter. I bought 10 tons last month and 4 more tons a week ago. Out here we are a little more than half way through winter and I have plenty of hay, no thanks to the greed of some of out local producers. Again, this is not about the cost of producing hay or legit hay shortages. It's about producers creating a fake hay shortage. To answer a question, no I would not hang on to my cattle to hope to create the price to go up, I don't think many hay producers can control the market price of hay on their own. One bit of good info I did get out of this post was when someone said that the horse owners can be blamed for some of the pricing of small bales. It turned on a light for my thoughts on this subject and I own horses... :o :( Alan [/QUOTE]
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