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<blockquote data-quote="Bez" data-source="post: 61268" data-attributes="member: 412"><p>Cut that valve off - first thing - then find out if there is water.</p><p></p><p>Measure water level and well depth.</p><p></p><p>If there is water within 30 feet of the surface - and it sounds like there might be - then get yourself some 1 inch or 1 - 1/2 pvc pipe to run down your two inch hole. </p><p></p><p>This is a temporary fix, but it will work.</p><p></p><p>You need a regular old piston pump - cheap to buy - easy to run - usually get them second hand at a plumbers supply. Even better if you can find an old pressure tank - nice but not really necessary - YET.</p><p></p><p>Hook up enough pipe to go down into the water - preferably at least two thirds of the depth of water - best about two feet off the bottom. Using various elbow combinations hook it up to the piston pump.</p><p></p><p>Prime it and put the power to the pump. It will suck and blow. If you do not want to use a generator, get a gas powered pump - well worth the price for many other applications anyways. Deeper water level - well, you can do the piston pump, but it needs additional piping - not enough room in the hole. You will probably be stuck with a "down the hole pump". They are too big for your pipe.</p><p></p><p>Put a foot valve on it - or you will always have to prime!</p><p></p><p>Make sure you run a bunch of this water - who knows how long it has been sitting there. Once it comes clean, if you are concerned - have it tested. If there are no nearby possible pollutants it will in all probability be fine for animal use.</p><p></p><p>On the down stream side of the pump, you can "neck down" the diametre and add a hose if you like. Caution this will bring up the pressure - you probably do not need a high pressure hose - but try it out and see. Or you can use the same diametre pipe on the downstream side - put a "Y" on it and add two hose attachments. The combinations and possibilities are only limited by your imagination and budget.</p><p></p><p>The well water flow may be small enough that you will drain the tube and have to wait for it to fill up again - meaning you will have to eventually put in a pressure tank to prevent the well tube from draining out. As the tank fills - it shuts off the pump and you still have water pressure while the tube re-fills. If the flow is high enough that this does not happen - well, count your blessings.</p><p></p><p>I have found well tops as deep as 8 feet under ground. I have heard of them being deeper - but that is the exception rather than the rule. Once you find the well top - if indeed this is a well and <strong>not a pipe coming from somewhere else</strong> - you really should bring it above the surface to prevent surface water running back into the well. Especially if it is potable water - keeps your drinking water safer.</p><p></p><p>I have to admit your neighbour is a hard worker - I have never seen a fence stolen before - too much work! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Windmills work fine. Koenders (sp?) makes a fine windmill - be sure to spend the extra money to have it pre-assembled. I have put the twenty-five thousand miniscule parts together ONCE! Never again - a true pain in the butt. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> It took me several evenings to do this.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I have given you the basics - if you need more just pm me.</p><p></p><p>Finally - a piece of real advice: Temporary often become permanent. With water - do not let this happen. Sooner or later you WILL regret it. This is one place you should not "cheap out".</p><p></p><p>Best of luck.</p><p></p><p>Bez</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bez, post: 61268, member: 412"] Cut that valve off - first thing - then find out if there is water. Measure water level and well depth. If there is water within 30 feet of the surface - and it sounds like there might be - then get yourself some 1 inch or 1 - 1/2 pvc pipe to run down your two inch hole. This is a temporary fix, but it will work. You need a regular old piston pump - cheap to buy - easy to run - usually get them second hand at a plumbers supply. Even better if you can find an old pressure tank - nice but not really necessary - YET. Hook up enough pipe to go down into the water - preferably at least two thirds of the depth of water - best about two feet off the bottom. Using various elbow combinations hook it up to the piston pump. Prime it and put the power to the pump. It will suck and blow. If you do not want to use a generator, get a gas powered pump - well worth the price for many other applications anyways. Deeper water level - well, you can do the piston pump, but it needs additional piping - not enough room in the hole. You will probably be stuck with a "down the hole pump". They are too big for your pipe. Put a foot valve on it - or you will always have to prime! Make sure you run a bunch of this water - who knows how long it has been sitting there. Once it comes clean, if you are concerned - have it tested. If there are no nearby possible pollutants it will in all probability be fine for animal use. On the down stream side of the pump, you can "neck down" the diametre and add a hose if you like. Caution this will bring up the pressure - you probably do not need a high pressure hose - but try it out and see. Or you can use the same diametre pipe on the downstream side - put a "Y" on it and add two hose attachments. The combinations and possibilities are only limited by your imagination and budget. The well water flow may be small enough that you will drain the tube and have to wait for it to fill up again - meaning you will have to eventually put in a pressure tank to prevent the well tube from draining out. As the tank fills - it shuts off the pump and you still have water pressure while the tube re-fills. If the flow is high enough that this does not happen - well, count your blessings. I have found well tops as deep as 8 feet under ground. I have heard of them being deeper - but that is the exception rather than the rule. Once you find the well top - if indeed this is a well and [b]not a pipe coming from somewhere else[/b] - you really should bring it above the surface to prevent surface water running back into the well. Especially if it is potable water - keeps your drinking water safer. I have to admit your neighbour is a hard worker - I have never seen a fence stolen before - too much work! :D Windmills work fine. Koenders (sp?) makes a fine windmill - be sure to spend the extra money to have it pre-assembled. I have put the twenty-five thousand miniscule parts together ONCE! Never again - a true pain in the butt. :D It took me several evenings to do this. Anyway, I have given you the basics - if you need more just pm me. Finally - a piece of real advice: Temporary often become permanent. With water - do not let this happen. Sooner or later you WILL regret it. This is one place you should not "cheap out". Best of luck. Bez [/QUOTE]
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