Ham

[inyati13]

I am frying ham, eggs, green olives and sliced tomatoes for breakfast in olive oil. I got the ham from my friend who is my age (both born 1950). He prepares it as a whole ham then slices off what you want. He told me the ham tastes like salt cured but has no salt and is thus healthy. He says two Doctors offered him a $100,000 for the recipe but he would not sell it. He has his operation in a real nice building near the farm house where he lives. I was asking him how well the business is going because I never see anyone there. He said it was bad. I said maybe you should sell the recipe. He says no, I would not give them dam Doctors a chance to make a fortune off me.

It reminded me of a story my Dad told about 30 times a year. When he worked for Tony Neltner at his auto garage, he said a guy invented a device you put on the valve stem of a tire and the tire would last 5 times longer. He said when the tire companies found out about it they wanted to buy it. But instead, the inventor who was a mechanic that worked with dad, threw it in the Ohio River. It never made any sense. But it did not stop him from telling it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Caustic Burno]

I am frying ham, eggs, green olives and sliced tomatoes for breakfast in olive oil. I got the ham from my friend who is my age (both born 1950). He prepares it as a whole ham then slices off what you want. He told me the ham tastes like salt cured but has no salt and is thus healthy. He says two Doctors offered him a $100,000 for the recipe but he would not sell it. He has his operation in a real nice building near the farm house where he lives. I was asking him how well the business is going because I never see anyone there. He said it was bad. I said maybe you should sell the recipe. He says no, I would not give them dam Doctors a chance to make a fortune off me.

It reminded me of a story my Dad told about 30 times a year. When he worked for Tony Neltner at his auto garage, he said a guy invented a device you put on the valve stem of a tire and the tire would last 5 times longer. He said when the tire companies found out about it they wanted to buy it. But instead, the inventor who was a mechanic that worked with dad, threw it in the Ohio River. It never made any sense. But it did not stop him from telling it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

It is not the ham that is unhealthy it is the sedentary lifestyle. Work today is a long way from what work was 50 to 100 years ago.
I bet there are very few on this board that have ever talked to the backside of a mule. No matter what you ask them they always reply the same a phewww.
My Great grand mother ate a pork chop and egg for breakfast every day of her life finally got her at 105.

 

[Cabo]

I am frying ham, eggs, green olives and sliced tomatoes for breakfast in olive oil. I got the ham from my friend who is my age (both born 1950). He prepares it as a whole ham then slices off what you want. He told me the ham tastes like salt cured but has no salt and is thus healthy. He says two Doctors offered him a $100,000 for the recipe but he would not sell it. He has his operation in a real nice building near the farm house where he lives. I was asking him how well the business is going because I never see anyone there. He said it was bad. I said maybe you should sell the recipe. He says no, I would not give them dam Doctors a chance to make a fortune off me.

It reminded me of a story my Dad told about 30 times a year. When he worked for Tony Neltner at his auto garage, he said a guy invented a device you put on the valve stem of a tire and the tire would last 5 times longer. He said when the tire companies found out about it they wanted to buy it. But instead, the inventor who was a mechanic that worked with dad, threw it in the Ohio River. It never made any sense. But it did not stop him from telling it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

It is not the ham that is unhealthy it is the sedentary lifestyle. Work today is a long way from what work was 50 to 100 years ago.
I bet there are very few on this board that have ever talked to the backside of a mule. No matter what you ask them they always reply the same a phewww.
My Great grand mother ate a pork chop and egg for breakfast every day of her life finally got her at 105.

I wonder if those mule pharts are what made me so ugly, that or them stopping so suddenly. I still love country ham.

 

[Jogeephus]

Either you misunderstood him or there is a host of things wrong with his claim. I have to say BS.

 

[inyati13]

Either you misunderstood him or there is a host of things wrong with his claim. I have to say BS.

That was exactly my point. I don't think anyone would turn down $100,000 in this situation. BS is right. People up here like their stories. :lol:

 

[inyati13]

Jo. Mike is a nice guy but Up here when someone gives you a cock and bull story, you don 't call them a liar, you call them a "storyteller". :lol2: Mike is a storyteller.

 

[Jogeephus]

Before I weigh in whole hog, did you taste salt in the ham?

 

[TexasBred]

It is not the ham that is unhealthy it is the sedentary lifestyle. Work today is a long way from what work was 50 to 100 years ago.
I bet there are very few on this board that have ever talked to the backside of a mule. No matter what you ask them they always reply the same a phewww.
My Great grand mother ate a pork chop and egg for breakfast every day of her life finally got her at 105.

CB my grandma lived to be almost 101 and I'm sure it was all that hog lard and Garett's snuff that finally done her in. :lol2: :lol2:

 

[inyati13]

Before I weigh in whole hog, did you taste salt in the ham?

It had a different flavor. Not bad. But there is what taste like salt but his claim is it is cured w/o salt. But the part that I don't believe is that he could have gotten $100,000.00 for the recipe and turned it down. Just makes no sense to me, unless he was selling it so fast that he was making his fortune and he ain't.

 

[Jogeephus]

If it tasted like it had salt in it I think maybe you misunderstood him or he intentionally misled you and what he actually meant was he did not using "curing salt" I take it he meant that because he said it was healthy for you and some have drunk the Kool-Aid and believe curing salt is bad for you and think by not using it they are creating a more healthy product. More like they did years ago. The thing is, until we began refining salt, this curing salt was in the raw salt and we have been using it for 2000 years before Christ. I think it was in the seventies there was a poor piece of journalism published that put a scare in people and though they retracted the story later the damage was done and people are still drinking the Kool-Aid. Also, if he is selling the hams his process has to be documented and approved by the government so finding out "his secret" would be child's play for anyone wanting to know.

My guess is he is trying to market his hams as being special. Sortof like grassfed beef. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on this because the alternative to his not using it to cure hams would be reckless and idiotic since barring his owning his own gamma-ray machine to radiate the meat this salt is the ONLY thing known to man that can keep botulism from sporing and he is going to eventually make someone really sick or put them in their grave.

Now if he were a safe story teller he could possibly add dehydrated celery juice or spinach juice to the curing mix and since this is nearly 100% nitrite it would be safe to consume. However, in the eyes of the government the product will not contain nitrate since it was added via a carrier even though the end product oftentimes will exceed the legal limit by ten or twenty times that allowable by law but they are still allowed to market it and the label can still read nitrite free for those who are health conscious and/or are "allergic" to nitrite. This is about the same marketing strategy as the grass fed stuff.

Another thing you can look at is the color of the ham. If it was a rosy red similar to the ham you are accustomed to seeing then it was cured with nitrates since it is the reaction between the nitrate and the myoglobin that creates this rosy color. This is chemistry plain and simple. So if it was a rosy red color and not a dull grey then there were definitely without a question nitrates in the cure.
Why people insist on thinking that when we gain an understanding of how nature works and we implement this process and tweek and /or refine the process it is then wrong is beyond me. But some many people love the Kool-Aid . Myself, I would prefer to know how much nitrate is in a product because anything can be bad for you if taken excessively. Interestingly enough, when cured within the recommended guidelines, cured meats have less nitrites in them than most leafy produce.
This seems to again be another example of reckless marketing to the ignorant masses who think pixie dust and fairies come out of Obama’s arse.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

He says two Doctors offered him a $100,000 for the recipe but he would not sell it.

RED ALERT RED ALERT!!!! :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop:

:lol:

 

[inyati13]

Jo. It is not reddish like most ham. He did tell me it was produced according to whatever regulations apply. His facility is clean. But I bought $10 worth and gave him a $20. When he opened the cash draw it didn't look like he had the ten dollars to make change. I know he is not selling much because I had to meet him there at a certain time so someone would be there to sell it. That tells me no one offered him $100,000.00 pr he would have taken it. I think he was just amusing me with a KY fireside story.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Jo. It is not reddish like most ham. He did tell me it was produced according to whatever regulations apply. His facility is clean. But I bought $10 worth and gave him a $20. When he opened the cash draw it didn't look like he had the ten dollars to make change. I know he is not selling much because I had to meet him there at a certain time so someone would be there to sell it. That tells me no one offered him $100,000.00 pr he would have taken it. I think he was just amusing me with a KY fireside story.

Sounds like you may have met your story telling match. :hide:

 

[Jogeephus]

If its not a rosy red and its supposed to be cured then I wouldn't eat it. There is a guy here that makes it without cure and he scares me. Botulism is a bad thing and heat won't kill it.

 

[inyati13]

If its not a rosy red and its supposed to be cured then I wouldn't eat it. There is a guy here that makes it without cure and he scares me. Botulism is a bad thing and heat won't kill it.

Good advice. I gave some to my dog Blue, he got diarrhea. I thought it was too rich but it may have bacteria he is not immune to. I don't plan on getting anymore. I know about botulism. It is another one of those Clostridial organisms. We used them in Bacteriology lab.

Botulinum toxin is a protein and neurotoxin produced by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum.[1][2] It is the most acutely toxic substance known, with an estimated human median lethal dose of 1.3–2.1 ng/kg intravenously or intramuscularly and 10–13 ng/kg when inhaled.[3] Botulinum toxin can cause botulism, a serious and life-threatening illness in humans and animals.

 

[Kingfisher]

So Jo warns you of the possibility of Botulism and you give some to your dog!?! ;/ lol

 

[ga.prime]

Wish I remembered the method for unfrying refried beans.

 

[inyati13]

So Jo warns you of the possibility of Botulism and you give some to your dog!?! ;/ lol

No that was a couple days ago . I had some scraps. Gave it to Blue. The next morning he crapped in his kennel . He never does that. It must have upset his stomach

 

[inyati13]

Wish I remembered the method for unfrying refried beans.

:? Say What ?

 

[inyati13]

I am frying ham, eggs, green olives and sliced tomatoes for breakfast in olive oil. I got the ham from my friend who is my age (both born 1950). He prepares it as a whole ham then slices off what you want. He told me the ham tastes like salt cured but has no salt and is thus healthy. He says two Doctors offered him a $100,000 for the recipe but he would not sell it. He has his operation in a real nice building near the farm house where he lives. I was asking him how well the business is going because I never see anyone there. He said it was bad. I said maybe you should sell the recipe. He says no, I would not give them dam Doctors a chance to make a fortune off me.

It reminded me of a story my Dad told about 30 times a year. When he worked for Tony Neltner at his auto garage, he said a guy invented a device you put on the valve stem of a tire and the tire would last 5 times longer. He said when the tire companies found out about it they wanted to buy it. But instead, the inventor who was a mechanic that worked with dad, threw it in the Ohio River. It never made any sense. But it did not stop him from telling it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

It is not the ham that is unhealthy it is the sedentary lifestyle. Work today is a long way from what work was 50 to 100 years ago.
I bet there are very few on this board that have ever talked to the backside of a mule. No matter what you ask them they always reply the same a phewww.
My Great grand mother ate a pork chop and egg for breakfast every day of her life finally got her at 105.

I finally caught your meaning. :lol2:
Most folks have never worked draft stock. My Dad called me when he was 82. He started crying. He said, "I have had a team of horses since I was 16. This is the first time since I was 16 that I don't own a team of horses." It was something that he had a hard time getting over.