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<blockquote data-quote="lazy ace" data-source="post: 240939" data-attributes="member: 4115"><p>This is the most accurate statement on creeping I have heard yet. I know a pure bred breeder who does not creep but turns into irrigated turnips about mid summer and says once they get used to eating them they will gain 3.5 to 5 pounds a day until they wean.</p><p></p><p>We only creep are purebreds when it is extremely dry. BRG stated that using creep with recip cows because they don't milk is acceptable. My question is why stick in valuable genetics into cows that you know are poorer producers, cut their heads off and find a better group. </p><p></p><p>People are afraid of one calf getting an advantage from creeping over the next calf. When all calves get the same access to creep it is still a level playing field. The calf that eats twice as much as the other calves because the mom is a P.O.S. cow will still show up. Good genetics always out shine poorer genetics and that dink will show up. That bull that has the top yearling weight and the top ADG always gets looked at, how do you know he didn't eat twice as much as the other ones on test? He may be the stud of the day but no one knows what his individual conversion rate was. </p><p></p><p>Whether you decide to creep or not to creep, when a purebred breeders culling practices are strict and honest, commercial cattlemen will benifit and make money. That is what it all boils down to MAKING MONEY for yourself and your customer! An oldtimer jack knife may be the cheapest investment any purebred operation owns. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Have a good one</p><p></p><p>Lazy ace</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lazy ace, post: 240939, member: 4115"] This is the most accurate statement on creeping I have heard yet. I know a pure bred breeder who does not creep but turns into irrigated turnips about mid summer and says once they get used to eating them they will gain 3.5 to 5 pounds a day until they wean. We only creep are purebreds when it is extremely dry. BRG stated that using creep with recip cows because they don't milk is acceptable. My question is why stick in valuable genetics into cows that you know are poorer producers, cut their heads off and find a better group. People are afraid of one calf getting an advantage from creeping over the next calf. When all calves get the same access to creep it is still a level playing field. The calf that eats twice as much as the other calves because the mom is a P.O.S. cow will still show up. Good genetics always out shine poorer genetics and that dink will show up. That bull that has the top yearling weight and the top ADG always gets looked at, how do you know he didn't eat twice as much as the other ones on test? He may be the stud of the day but no one knows what his individual conversion rate was. Whether you decide to creep or not to creep, when a purebred breeders culling practices are strict and honest, commercial cattlemen will benifit and make money. That is what it all boils down to MAKING MONEY for yourself and your customer! An oldtimer jack knife may be the cheapest investment any purebred operation owns. :D Have a good one Lazy ace [/QUOTE]
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