Growthy Gelbvieh?

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I went through the annual MN sale catalog today. There were several "moderate" bulls with 83,77,81,74# birth weights and BW epds <1. Most were much larger with birth weights in the 90s... Is this typical for Gelbvieh or does this type of sale just attract the larger genetics?
 
I opened this thread expecting something to do with the growth of Gelbviehs, not something about BW. As far as I'm concerned there is no correlation between the two. I don't pay attention to actual BW's. There are so many factors that come into play that it is impossible to judge an animal by its actual BW. With that said, I have seen a majority of Gelbvieh's in the 80-90 pound range.
 
Stocker Steve":izikqgz1 said:
I went through the annual MN sale catalog today. There were several "moderate" bulls with 83,77,81,74# birth weights and BW epds <1. Most were much larger with birth weights in the 90s... Is this typical for Gelbvieh or does this type of sale just attract the larger genetics?
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How is that different from any other breed. The more growth the higher birth weight. Having said that I know that there are glaring examples out there.
Ozz Governor...Gelbvieh..http://bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=239
LCC New Standard.......Angus...http://bullbarn.com/angblkepd.asp?ID=798
are two that come to mind that have low birthweight numbers and high growth but they are the exception not the rule.

In general the Gelbvieh breeders are working very hard to keep the growth and moderate the size of their cattle. They have the smallest mature cow size of all the continental breeds.

Why not AI to bulls like Governor and clean up with something as good as you can find. That's what I am doing this year and am using a son of LCC New Standard for cleanup. At least that way I get Balancers with growth and calving ease without sacrificing carcass value. Of course I am breeding purebred GV cows to begin with.
 
I am not going to take time to work the statistics, but the bigger 90 to 100# calves also have weaning weights in the 800 to 900# range...

Thanks for the links. My cousin has a tank full of Holsteins and I may need to slip some money making semen into it. :banana:
 
The norm is that heavier BW relates to heavier WW. But there are a lot of outliers that will give you low BW and high WW
 

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