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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1621111" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>I swung by the local FSA office this morning to check up on it. The folks there don't know much about it. </p><p>But... the few details they could give make me think that it's probably not gonna work for us. </p><p>$25/acre, if you qualify and they choose you as a 'winner', once they go through the scoring process. </p><p></p><p>If you sign onto it, NRCS will come out and prescribe a rotational grazing program, and they'll mandate how tall you have to keep the grass. Don't know if they'll mandate that you kill off KY-31 or any other existing forages and replant the their choice... but it wouldn't surprise me. We sold all the cows last fall - except for one heifer, and have two horses... but they couldn't tell me if there was a minimum requirement for how many head of livestock you'd have to have to qualify... just a maximum number(140 head). </p><p>If you sign onto it, NRCS will come out and prescribe a rotational grazing program, and they'll mandate how tall you have to keep the grass. Since we sold out, I was looking to pull out most of the cross-fences to facilitate mowing/haying... but doubt they'd allow that, now. And, since my place is fenced with 2 strands of electrified HT wire - even the perimeters - I suspect they'd require that I put in 'more substantial' fencing, even though this has served just fine for 25 years. (Heck... 20 yrs or so ago, when I was looking at putting in an upland pond in a recently logged-off stand of ice-storm-damaged pines, 1000 ft or more uphill, through the woods, from the cow pasture, they were going to require a 5-strand barbed wire fence around it... even though there were NEVER going to be any cattle anywhere close to it.) </p><p>No haying or mowing between May 15 and Aug 1 - like so many of these FSA/NRCS programs, they seem to be more concerned about 'ground-nesting birds' than about farming. If you're concerned about making any sort of decent quality hay... forgettaboutit. </p><p></p><p>Probably more to it - and more hurdles to jump over than they could tell me - but, it looks like almost every other FSA/NRCS/USDA program I've dealt with... the requirements/mandates/restrictions are so onerous that it's not worth the trouble for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1621111, member: 12607"] I swung by the local FSA office this morning to check up on it. The folks there don't know much about it. But... the few details they could give make me think that it's probably not gonna work for us. $25/acre, if you qualify and they choose you as a 'winner', once they go through the scoring process. If you sign onto it, NRCS will come out and prescribe a rotational grazing program, and they'll mandate how tall you have to keep the grass. Don't know if they'll mandate that you kill off KY-31 or any other existing forages and replant the their choice... but it wouldn't surprise me. We sold all the cows last fall - except for one heifer, and have two horses... but they couldn't tell me if there was a minimum requirement for how many head of livestock you'd have to have to qualify... just a maximum number(140 head). If you sign onto it, NRCS will come out and prescribe a rotational grazing program, and they'll mandate how tall you have to keep the grass. Since we sold out, I was looking to pull out most of the cross-fences to facilitate mowing/haying... but doubt they'd allow that, now. And, since my place is fenced with 2 strands of electrified HT wire - even the perimeters - I suspect they'd require that I put in 'more substantial' fencing, even though this has served just fine for 25 years. (Heck... 20 yrs or so ago, when I was looking at putting in an upland pond in a recently logged-off stand of ice-storm-damaged pines, 1000 ft or more uphill, through the woods, from the cow pasture, they were going to require a 5-strand barbed wire fence around it... even though there were NEVER going to be any cattle anywhere close to it.) No haying or mowing between May 15 and Aug 1 - like so many of these FSA/NRCS programs, they seem to be more concerned about 'ground-nesting birds' than about farming. If you're concerned about making any sort of decent quality hay... forgettaboutit. Probably more to it - and more hurdles to jump over than they could tell me - but, it looks like almost every other FSA/NRCS/USDA program I've dealt with... the requirements/mandates/restrictions are so onerous that it's not worth the trouble for me. [/QUOTE]
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