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<blockquote data-quote="Bez" data-source="post: 60033" data-attributes="member: 412"><p>Hi Dun</p><p></p><p>It is obvious by your response that your system and our system are very different.</p><p></p><p>First, the dairy guy in Canada is guaranteed a price for his product. He is protected by a quota system that prevents anyone from competing with him - do not even think of producing milk in Canada without quota. In Ontario it runs around 28,000 bucks for the right to produce one kilo of fat in milk. It is the right to milk somewhere in the vicinity of 1 - 1.5 cows per kilo of quota. You WILL be shut down. And right smartly too. You will have your day in court - plan on spending lots of money AND losing.</p><p></p><p>If there is a problem with income - as recently happened - the dairy board raises the price of milk and the extra is returned to the farmer. If the farmer needs additional quota due to over production he must buy it - or in some cases additional quota will be awarded to all farmers across the board on a percentage or ratio basis. This quota has a monetary value and can be bought or sold. This awarding of quota took place just this last November if I remember correctly. If you are large enough, your equity just grew by 28K or more - gratis!</p><p></p><p>As for the dairy guy eating his culls - what you say is true - what I was pointing at is .... You will never see him eat one of those that goes to the sale barn - they are well and truly used up. All the guys I know put a couple in a pen and feed them nothing but the best and kill them at around 15-20 months - so why should we eat them?</p><p></p><p>If there needs to be a re-imbursement program for the disposal of this animal - then so be it. I just do not think we should be eating them.</p><p></p><p>There is a cost to rendering - in this area it costs 60 bucks to have the dead wagon haul away a cow and 25 for a calf of any size under 500 pounds. 25 cents for the bullet - I usually supply the bullet and the gun. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> But, they will do that for you as well if you want - no charge.</p><p></p><p>Buyer beware on withdrawal times is an issue I had not considered - most if not all of these cows go for meat. Immediate cut up - not like the animals going to the feedlot. </p><p></p><p>In the end, I am still thinking we have a long way to go before we can look in the mirror and say we are even close to where we should be.</p><p></p><p>Regards</p><p></p><p>Bez</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bez, post: 60033, member: 412"] Hi Dun It is obvious by your response that your system and our system are very different. First, the dairy guy in Canada is guaranteed a price for his product. He is protected by a quota system that prevents anyone from competing with him - do not even think of producing milk in Canada without quota. In Ontario it runs around 28,000 bucks for the right to produce one kilo of fat in milk. It is the right to milk somewhere in the vicinity of 1 - 1.5 cows per kilo of quota. You WILL be shut down. And right smartly too. You will have your day in court - plan on spending lots of money AND losing. If there is a problem with income - as recently happened - the dairy board raises the price of milk and the extra is returned to the farmer. If the farmer needs additional quota due to over production he must buy it - or in some cases additional quota will be awarded to all farmers across the board on a percentage or ratio basis. This quota has a monetary value and can be bought or sold. This awarding of quota took place just this last November if I remember correctly. If you are large enough, your equity just grew by 28K or more - gratis! As for the dairy guy eating his culls - what you say is true - what I was pointing at is .... You will never see him eat one of those that goes to the sale barn - they are well and truly used up. All the guys I know put a couple in a pen and feed them nothing but the best and kill them at around 15-20 months - so why should we eat them? If there needs to be a re-imbursement program for the disposal of this animal - then so be it. I just do not think we should be eating them. There is a cost to rendering - in this area it costs 60 bucks to have the dead wagon haul away a cow and 25 for a calf of any size under 500 pounds. 25 cents for the bullet - I usually supply the bullet and the gun. :D But, they will do that for you as well if you want - no charge. Buyer beware on withdrawal times is an issue I had not considered - most if not all of these cows go for meat. Immediate cut up - not like the animals going to the feedlot. In the end, I am still thinking we have a long way to go before we can look in the mirror and say we are even close to where we should be. Regards Bez [/QUOTE]
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