It is true Watchfire has some good carcass merits, and we know some carcass merits (ie: IMF) are genetically passed with a higher percentage. So, in that respect he should be very good. I believe his calves and his daughters are only moderate in size, but seem to flesh out easily. I have heard that the daughters do not milk as good as many people would like, some even say they "don't milk", but they still seem to raise a good calf, and I have not herd (or seen) any ugly udder stories associated with his daughters. (Doug Gerber was good about udder quality) I would think watchfire would make a good terminal sire, and with the right matings probably make some good cows. I would add length and milk to any matings I made for replacements. Gerber Linesman, who's semen is for sale and who's picture can be seen at the AHA site, is out of a Watchfire daughter. Gerber Lombardi's Dam is very closly related to that same Watchfire daughter. (517, GK Queen Ten, King Ten, Trish 45D) Watchfire or his full brother do not get that much attention nowadays. I would suspect his calves to be in the upper 80's with some in the 90's. Definately not little.