Not much anymore. I have a lot more info that I don’t choose to share because I feel that information might hurt good people that weren’t even a part of the “rumors” and that is really all they are. But what we’re discussing here, is the fact that Schaff itself REFUSES to allow genomic testing on their new bulls and those being collected on.Son of Butch":a515gl2a said:So if you believe a breeder has differing standards of selected info collected [cherry picking?] for breeding stock,
Do you still support their program with your $ by purchasing their product offerings even if it might be biased?
Not sure what protocol is but for our donors, if they’re a potential carrier of something, we need to test them.Till-Hill":sve9gcdt said:I had assumed AI sires had to be genomic tested? Donor cows?
Why not make genomics test required for AI bulls and Donor females? If it's not required for them why the heck is it even a thing? AI studs/Seedstock guys don't trust it yet??!!Air gator":cjtgi240 said:Till-Hill,
Bulls and donors need to be blood tested to confirm parents.
I think if you see a SAV bull and like his looks and his pedigree...and then see his offspring selling well then you use him.
I bred to Resource because everyone who had calves out of him liked him and according to the Angus Association of all the bulls out there, he is the #1 bull for feet. His daughters are supposed to have nice udders as well.
I agree 100%, I'd just like to know why the Angus association is ramming it down everyone's throats when nobody really trusts it except for the people who's cattle genomic tested really welljscunn":3odiz1gk said:I had a female that dominated at weaning (666 # ratio 104) and yearling (970# ratio 117) with a 99 ratio for BW (76#). I DNA tested her and some select replacements she went from a YW EPD of 110 to 89 after the genomics (58 DNA for YW). Raised her first calf 684 # ratio 101 (heifer calf) and bred back on AI service. Picture perfect 3 yr old cow. Now imagine I paid $10,000 or more for her at weaning and tested her.. SAV doesnt want to chance it with a 5 figure bull sale average I would not dare test anything.
As far as AI bulls being tested what would that accomplish? If I owned Raindance there is ZERO chance I would gamble a big drop in EPDs because it might hurt my ability to recoop my investment.