Ft Worth Results

[TxCoUnTrYbOy]

Well Fort Worth is over for me, and I am pretty disappointed with it. Not because I placed at the bottom of my class, but because of the entire judging. I was in a class of 3 (me and 2 other bulls), mine supposedly being the oldest in the class (by almost 2 months), but also the smallest. The other had to be at least 3-4 months older than mine. Unfortunately I cant mention who those ranches were, because if you badmouth the wrong guy, youll never get anywhere at any show. It is so obvious too, and everyone knows what is going on, but cant say anything because it will ruin their entire future with that breed. The judge was obviously picking certain ranches as the winner in nearly every class too. I guess you have to have the right brand to do well in this business. The judge seemed to be nothing more than an actor, acting like he was really judging the animals but really knew who the winner was before they came in to the show ring. I am extremely disappointed. I enjoy the whole thing, I love to show, but leaving not knowing what my animal really is like is disappointing. I will continue to show since I enjoy doing it, but these major shows (at least the brahman show), was really just a joke.

 

[cherokeeruby]

As your bull gets older you will find more and more bulls from major breeders in you class being shown, which were no shown as calves. ....................................................extrapolate from here.

 

[TheBullLady]

Welcome to the fabulous world of showing Brahman cattle! Been there.. done that.. which is precisely why I no longer show Brahmans.. Simmentals or Simbrahs only.

It's very very very depressing when so many breeder so obviously cheat on the ages of their cattle. At some point in time SOMETHING will have to be done.. it is really a farce at this point.

The latest newsletter stated the "Show Committee" was going to "look into" flagrant misrepresentation on ages.. so who knows.

I'm sorry for your disappointment. I really really hate it when a new Brahman breeder who wants to spend time and $$$ on the cattle gets disenchanted with the breed for this kind of stuff.

I feel your PAIN TCB. I wish it were different.

 

[certherfbeef]

Welcome to the fabulous world of showing Brahman cattle! Been there.. done that..

Not just in the Brahman world...

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Why don't you post a picture with birth date & current weight. Let the world be the judge. Well, some of the world, I sure couldn't - wouldn't know a really good quality brahman.

 

[Subsoil]

Why don't you post a picture with birth date & current weight. Let the world be the judge. Well, some of the world, I sure couldn't - wouldn't know a really good quality brahman.

I think most would agree this is a pretty decent example of a brahman bull - especially in the rear 1/3 of his body. An no - these aren't my cattle but I wish they were - their female offspring would be worth some money.

 

[Ryan]

It has gotten way out of hand in the longhorn shows the last 3-4 years, well since the introduction of the Autobahn Youth Scholarship tour (over $250,00 paid to 150+ kids in the last 4 years). But it will be getting better since the scholarship tour will no longer be affiliated with the TLBAA, or any individual Texas Longhorn Registry.

 

[TXCHICK]

Had to chuckle because DOB no longer stands for date of birth. It now stands for date of brush. Ha! Ha!

 

[mobetter11]

Welcome to the fabulous world of showing Brahman cattle! Been there.. done that.. which is precisely why I no longer show Brahmans

Kinda like at Houston during the open show when the different ranches bring in the furniture and set their area up like a house. Then there's the ones that have the waiter's in the tux's that will take your drink order and bring it to you. The Open Brahman shows are all about marketing, most would be surprised at how many thousands of dollars are spent at just Houston during the open show on cattle, flushes, semen, etc. I'm sure it's at all the major shows.

 

[greenwillowherefords]

When we showed a Hereford heifer a year ago, I was appalled at the trickery going on. I heard guys talking about "getting papers" (Custom made) for animals they knew were actually crossbreds. I was advised to lie about the DOB on the heifer, and refused to do so of course. This was in 4H!

I have come to the conclusion that it is probably possible to beat the cheat one way: You'd better have great quality, and you'd better have tremendous growth.

The heifer we were showing was purchased at her mother's side, and was a very nice heifer, but lacked growth. We sold her at the sale barn because I was dissatisfied with her yearling weight. If we hadn't decided to wait until the boy got older and more motivated to take some of the work off me, I feel confident that some of our home-raised heifers would have fared better this year; they were certainly much more growthy with a 250 pound yearling weight advantage over the former show heifer.

 

[TheBullLady]

The big "production" at Houston for the open Brahman show isn't even for the benefit of local folks, it's put on for the benefit of all the International buyers that ABBA pays to bring here for the show. As you mentioned, there is a lot of $$$ being spent there. All the big importers make the show / sale.

 

[mobetter11]

The big "production" at Houston for the open Brahman show isn't even for the benefit of local folks, it's put on for the benefit of all the International buyers that ABBA pays to bring here for the show. As you mentioned, there is a lot of $$$ being spent there. All the big importers make the show / sale.

Yes, but my point was that all the open shows at the majors are for is marketing. The more money and larger the operation the better your cattle do.

When we showed a Hereford heifer a year ago, I was appalled at the trickery going on. I heard guys talking about "getting papers" (Custom made) for animals they knew were actually crossbreds. I was advised to lie about the DOB on the heifer, and refused to do so of course. This was in 4H!

I have heard of several ranches that when you buy a heifer from them will ask you what birthdate you want on the papers. I know of a couple of kids that have done this, it works as long as the heifer's are young, but when they get older it all catches up with them. That's why most heifer's that are done this way will only show for a year or less.

 

[dun]

Welcoome to the world of showing. Many years ago we showed Appaloosas. Never did very well. Occasioanlly we would place, but not often. One show I had a professional fitter show our filly, lo and behold, grand champion. All he did was walk in the ring with her, but he had a big name at the time.
We quit showing horses shortly after that.

dun

 

[TheBullLady]

Dun.. I trained and showed horses in Illinois for 20 years.. it's a lot worse now that it was in the 80's when I was showing.

The main reason my hubby doesn't like showing is for the "politics" and unfair advantage a lot of breeders have. But I think you have to really like doing it.. and like marketing and talking with cattle producers to enjoy it. I love to show.. but I don't let the politics ruin my fun! :lol:

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

I don't know about the brahman shows, but in the Simmental - yes, there are some shows that are VERY political. But, even in the political shows, good cattle are the winners. You might have shuffled the placings a bit, but no reputable breeder will judge a show and make a fool of himself - no matter who is at the halter or who he owes favors to. Yes, one farm/fitter may get favoritism but all in all - the cattle were really good cattle. Not saying it never happens, had one show a "cripple" placed above us. When she went back into the ring for the championship drive, the judge said "Well, sometimes we place TOO MUCH emphasis on structure - this cow has adequate blah blah"
He screwed up and he knew it. He was too busy looking at the handler. When we stand 2nd to a political placing, we may not like it but we feel honored to get that high with politics going against us since we're a nobody.

 

[holistichoofcare]

Good thing theres no cheating in the dairy shows ;-)