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<blockquote data-quote="James T" data-source="post: 1221279" data-attributes="member: 17369"><p>Highgrit, I would not argue points 1-4 and I am darned glad for all of those points!! In light of the terrorism and that the majority of it is out of the Muslim world, we have to be vigilant. It would be stupid not be be!!</p><p></p><p>Tied into your points are points that CF made:</p><p>"The people that don't accept the entirety of the message, the ones that say they reject the violent aspects, if they truly renounce the violence in all shapes and fashion and not secretly revel in the spread of Islam through it's waring devices, they should remove all commands and acceptance of violence from their message. And maybe we should call them something else. This isn't a moderation, it is an acceptance of only part of the original message. It is a deviation, something has been removed."</p><p></p><p>We can all talk about how things "should be" all day long, right?. And CF, I agree with your above statement but would also apply it to the Bible and the Book of Mormon, the Tanakh and any other major documents that the various religions use. Because, those are the instruments by which fragmentation (sects) occur. Maybe not a great example but the only one that strikes me at this moment is 'the Bible is the Bible, right? Wrong!! All one has to do is drive around any major city and write down the various denominations they see. One web site cites that there may be around 41,000 Christian denominations. That's 41000 that don't agree on how the others interpret the Bible.</p><p></p><p>Although not nearly as fragmented, Muslims are fragmented as well, in their interpretation of the Koran and including Islamic Law (Shariah). Unlike the Christian divisions, the Muslims have some groups that have created interpretations leading them to terrorism. Like wise, they also have a large population whose interpretations have led them the opposite direction - very peaceful. And, of course, all the points in between the two extremes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James T, post: 1221279, member: 17369"] Highgrit, I would not argue points 1-4 and I am darned glad for all of those points!! In light of the terrorism and that the majority of it is out of the Muslim world, we have to be vigilant. It would be stupid not be be!! Tied into your points are points that CF made: "The people that don't accept the entirety of the message, the ones that say they reject the violent aspects, if they truly renounce the violence in all shapes and fashion and not secretly revel in the spread of Islam through it's waring devices, they should remove all commands and acceptance of violence from their message. And maybe we should call them something else. This isn't a moderation, it is an acceptance of only part of the original message. It is a deviation, something has been removed." We can all talk about how things "should be" all day long, right?. And CF, I agree with your above statement but would also apply it to the Bible and the Book of Mormon, the Tanakh and any other major documents that the various religions use. Because, those are the instruments by which fragmentation (sects) occur. Maybe not a great example but the only one that strikes me at this moment is 'the Bible is the Bible, right? Wrong!! All one has to do is drive around any major city and write down the various denominations they see. One web site cites that there may be around 41,000 Christian denominations. That's 41000 that don't agree on how the others interpret the Bible. Although not nearly as fragmented, Muslims are fragmented as well, in their interpretation of the Koran and including Islamic Law (Shariah). Unlike the Christian divisions, the Muslims have some groups that have created interpretations leading them to terrorism. Like wise, they also have a large population whose interpretations have led them the opposite direction - very peaceful. And, of course, all the points in between the two extremes. [/QUOTE]
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