hurleyjd":1eoltop8 said:https://www.yahoo.com/news/2018-ford-f-150-diesel-050100155.html
HDRider":71oh8520 said:I wonder how long it will take to work out the bugs.
When will they be available?
Caustic Burno":2bp0x007 said:HDRider":2bp0x007 said:I wonder how long it will take to work out the bugs.
When will they be available?
They will probably only want 70k for you to test it for them. You sure don’t see the new Fords here after going to the aluminum body. Don’t know if it’s bad or as you said people are waiting to see what the bugs are.
Caustic Burno":xlxb7nrv said:HDRider":xlxb7nrv said:I wonder how long it will take to work out the bugs.
When will they be available?
They will probably only want 70k for you to test it for them. You sure don’t see the new Fords here after going to the aluminum body. Don’t know if it’s bad or as you said people are waiting to see what the bugs are.
Bullitt":12tlc7y1 said:I was just going to post about the new Ford F-150 diesel and I see someone beat me to it.
"The turbocharged 3.0-liter V6 makes 250 horsepower at 3,250 rpm and 440 pound-feet of torque at 1,750 rpm. Ford hasn't released official fuel economy numbers yet, but it's aiming for 30 mpg on the highway... The engine meets emissions requirements for all 50 states, and it uses a urea-injection system. It will also be mated to Ford's 10-speed automatic transmission with a beefier torque converter. According to Ford, the diesel F-150 will have a payload capacity of 2,020 pounds and a tow rating of 11,400 pounds."
A urea-injection system means that the owner has to keep filling up that injection container, right? I know this is supposed to reduce emissions.
I believe the Ram 1500 with the V6 diesel has a towing capacity of a little more than 7,000 pounds. So more than 11,000 pounds of towing capacity is good and will serve most purposes.
hillbilly beef man":t7nuudvu said:Caustic Burno":t7nuudvu said:HDRider":t7nuudvu said:I wonder how long it will take to work out the bugs.
When will they be available?
They will probably only want 70k for you to test it for them. You sure don’t see the new Fords here after going to the aluminum body. Don’t know if it’s bad or as you said people are waiting to see what the bugs are.
Their must not be any new fords in Houston because Tennessee has bought them all. Amazing how many new trucks around here. Our local economy must be picking up.
True Grit Farms":1f43e4an said:You got to be a fool to buy a 1/2 ton truck with a diesel engine. And to buy a 3/4 or 1 ton truck without a Cummins isn't really overly smart either. My thinking is a gas engine with no emission bs will pull anything you should put behind a 1/2 truck. But in all fairness the big three auto makers all seem to have a pretty good diesel engine in their heavy duty pickups.
The best I could gather from the article a diesel engine is a $4k option in a 1/2 truck. You'll never save enough fuel to offset the cost of a diesel engine. And then add that Ford says to change the timing belt at 150k miles. Then add fuel filters, oil changes and DEF fluid your a real idiot to think that it makes sense financially.Bullitt":29a8wazu said:True Grit Farms":29a8wazu said:You got to be a fool to buy a 1/2 ton truck with a diesel engine. And to buy a 3/4 or 1 ton truck without a Cummins isn't really overly smart either. My thinking is a gas engine with no emission bs will pull anything you should put behind a 1/2 truck. But in all fairness the big three auto makers all seem to have a pretty good diesel engine in their heavy duty pickups.
Why would a person be a fool for buying a 1/2-ton truck with a diesel engine? A towing capacity of 11,000 pounds and 30 MPG seems pretty good to me.
You wrote, "to buy a 3/4 or 1 ton truck without a Cummins isn't really overly smart either."
Then you wrote, "But in all fairness the big three auto makers all seem to have a pretty good diesel engine in their heavy duty pickups."
It seems you contradict yourself.
True Grit Farms":fo8v1p5i said:The best I could gather from the article a diesel engine is a $4k option in a 1/2 truck. You'll never save enough fuel to offset the cost of a diesel engine. And then add that Ford says to change the timing belt at 150k miles. Then add fuel filters, oil changes and DEF fluid your a real idiot to think that it makes sense financially.Bullitt":fo8v1p5i said:True Grit Farms":fo8v1p5i said:You got to be a fool to buy a 1/2 ton truck with a diesel engine. And to buy a 3/4 or 1 ton truck without a Cummins isn't really overly smart either. My thinking is a gas engine with no emission bs will pull anything you should put behind a 1/2 truck. But in all fairness the big three auto makers all seem to have a pretty good diesel engine in their heavy duty pickups.
Why would a person be a fool for buying a 1/2-ton truck with a diesel engine? A towing capacity of 11,000 pounds and 30 MPG seems pretty good to me.
You wrote, "to buy a 3/4 or 1 ton truck without a Cummins isn't really overly smart either."
Then you wrote, "But in all fairness the big three auto makers all seem to have a pretty good diesel engine in their heavy duty pickups."
It seems you contradict yourself.
At one time Ford had two diesel engines that were junk back to back from the factory, and the GM Duramax didn't have any pulling power "torque" in their heavy duty trucks. Ford seems to have a good engine finally, and the Duramax has a different turbo, injectors and tunning than the older versions and seem to pull good now.
But using the same gear ratio a RAM with a Cummins engine will adverage 3-4+ mpg better than either a Ford or GM, pull harder and smoother. Nothing beats a straight in line 6 cylinder tractor - truck engine for pulling power.
those straight sixes will twist up tighter than a wedge..gas or diesel...True Grit Farms":2b66a8qe said:The best I could gather from the article a diesel engine is a $4k option in a 1/2 truck. You'll never save enough fuel to offset the cost of a diesel engine. And then add that Ford says to change the timing belt at 150k miles. Then add fuel filters, oil changes and DEF fluid your a real idiot to think that it makes sense financially.Bullitt":2b66a8qe said:True Grit Farms":2b66a8qe said:You got to be a fool to buy a 1/2 ton truck with a diesel engine. And to buy a 3/4 or 1 ton truck without a Cummins isn't really overly smart either. My thinking is a gas engine with no emission bs will pull anything you should put behind a 1/2 truck. But in all fairness the big three auto makers all seem to have a pretty good diesel engine in their heavy duty pickups.
Why would a person be a fool for buying a 1/2-ton truck with a diesel engine? A towing capacity of 11,000 pounds and 30 MPG seems pretty good to me.
You wrote, "to buy a 3/4 or 1 ton truck without a Cummins isn't really overly smart either."
Then you wrote, "But in all fairness the big three auto makers all seem to have a pretty good diesel engine in their heavy duty pickups."
It seems you contradict yourself.
At one time Ford had two diesel engines that were junk back to back from the factory, and the GM Duramax didn't have any pulling power "torque" in their heavy duty trucks. Ford seems to have a good engine finally, and the Duramax has a different turbo, injectors and tunning than the older versions and seem to pull good now.
But using the same gear ratio a RAM with a Cummins engine will adverage 3-4+ mpg better than either a Ford or GM, pull harder and smoother. Nothing beats a straight in line 6 cylinder tractor - truck engine for pulling power.