Please no speeches about epds and trading papers. The bull is heavy muscled, and very deep. His tail head is a little high though.
http://www.redangus.org/cgi-bin/extped.4ge?1024658
http://www.redangus.org/cgi-bin/extped.4ge?1024658
For you red angus folks...How does this bull look on paper?
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Tod Dague
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Looks good. Now let's see the bull! 
El_Putzo
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Is there a pic somewhere that I'm missing? How can you tell he is straight shouldered?
certherfbeef
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I'm not ollie but let me see if I can help...
The shoulders are naturally sloping. A slope of 45–60 degrees is considered acceptable. If the shoulder blade is tipped forward (straight-shouldered) has less angle at the shoulder joint and elbow joint and this reduces the shock-absorbing ability of these front joints.
The straight-shouldered bull tends to walk with a short choppy gait. He will carry his head low and may have difficulty raising his head much above his backline. Quite often the tip of the shoulder blade is prominent above his backline.
Usually, a bull that is straight in the shoulder will also be straight in the hind leg. These bulls are particularly prone to early breakdown through the wearing of the leg joints, and the onset of arthritis.
The shoulders are naturally sloping. A slope of 45–60 degrees is considered acceptable. If the shoulder blade is tipped forward (straight-shouldered) has less angle at the shoulder joint and elbow joint and this reduces the shock-absorbing ability of these front joints.
The straight-shouldered bull tends to walk with a short choppy gait. He will carry his head low and may have difficulty raising his head much above his backline. Quite often the tip of the shoulder blade is prominent above his backline.
Usually, a bull that is straight in the shoulder will also be straight in the hind leg. These bulls are particularly prone to early breakdown through the wearing of the leg joints, and the onset of arthritis.
ollie
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Strait shoulders (when evaluated from the side) are the relationship between the high point of the shoulder (withers on a horse) compared with the socket of the shoulder (shoulder point where the leg hooks on.) you want a slope about like a 12/12 roof or so. Strait shouldered cattle the point is almost directly above the socket. If you are looking at them from the front usually[/u] it will make them appear bow legged. Looking from the side it looks like their knees want to buckle foreward and they are usually too far up on their pasturns. Often strait shouldered cattle are tight hearted . It is an indication that the females won't milk as well and also a sign of a harder keeping type stock...at least that is the way I see them. Someone else may give you a better visual.Here is a pic of one.
http://www.bovine-elite.com/limousinepd.asp?ID=43
Here is a even better example of a strait shoulder
http://www.bovine-elite.com/herefepd.asp?ID=12
http://www.bovine-elite.com/limousinepd.asp?ID=43
Here is a even better example of a strait shoulder
http://www.bovine-elite.com/herefepd.asp?ID=12
certherfbeef
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ollie
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It is alot easier to tell in person. Here is a pic of a comfortable looking front.
http://www.bovine-elite.com/angredepd.asp?ID=27
http://www.bovine-elite.com/angredepd.asp?ID=27
ollie
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In those pictures at least I like the Cheyenne front. Neither bull is all that objectionable in the picture to me. From the picture both appear to be sound. I would caution however it makes a difference how you set them up in the picture . Neither bull is absolutely sweet fronted.
