ok gonna give you pros something to laugh at! we have worked in hayfields for ever but last winter we {my friends and I} have been gathering equpt. to put some of our own hay,my hubby has a 46 kabota tractor, i have my "littl punkin" ck20 kioti, jane and terry have 1961 jon deer, he rebuilt we call ol jon LOL im sure we're a sight LOL but we get the job done. LOL got this hay rake at an auction for $40. deal of the day ! this is the first time i have ever raked hay, im sure you can tell but it's all good! i wont tell you how crooked some of the rows were LOL but it got windrowed! Rose