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The fire meteorologist is saying today the temperature will reach 96, the humidity at 9%, winds out of the NW at 25 mph with gusts to 45. That is all bad for fire except the wind out of the NW is pushing it toward the river. Trouble is with all those ridges and canyon up there it is impossible to tell which way the wind will swirl.
 
There is a very important reason to have a meeting in the morning before you start a dangerous tasks. Can it go overboard, absolutely, but its good to gather every one up, get control, check on people, equipment, etc. It lets people get their mind in the game and make a plan.

Running in to that stuff half cocked with all of the night before's issues fresh on people's minds leads to bad things happening.
 
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Drove east from Fallon, Nevada on highway 50 today and went by a fire by Austen, NV, another by Ely, NV, and now there is one somewhere close to Delta, Utah. These pics are the one south of Ely.

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Hard to really see the scale from these images, but there were a lot of helicopters flying around and they may be in these pics but so small that you can't see them.
 
One that always bothered me is back during the fire here in 2024 73 year old me would be out on the road at 5:30 checking the fire advance. The fire crews wouldn't show up until 9:00 maybe later. Because of lower temperatures and higher humidity during the night the fire would die down. Once the sun came up the fire grows. But they had to have their daily meeting every morning. My neighbor decided to attend one of the morning meetings. They had a map and were pointing out where the fire was and their plan to attack it. Neighbor raided his hand and told them that the fire was a mile past where the said it was. They just stood there looking at him and then continued on. After the crew leaders left the bosses went to telling him how they knew all these things. He told them that was fine but that he had actually been there about an hour earlier. Stood there and saw it with his own eyes. Faced with the facts they had no answers.
Still bothers me that they have their long well into the morning meeting. Want a morning meeting. Fine. Get up earlier, eat breakfast earlier, have your meeting, and get out on the fire at the crack of dawn.
That neighbor calling their bluff with actual eyes-on-the-ground info and getting silence back is the whole problem in one scene. We had a similar deal with a hay fire years back where the volunteer crew showed up wanting to debate strategy while the wind was doing the deciding for them. By the time the meeting ended the situation had already changed twice.
 
There was one 15 years ago or so in southeast Oregon. Lightning fire at the White Horse ranch. The ranch crew almost had the fire controlled. A BLM crew rolled in but they didn't have a boss with them. So they went to setting up their camp. Working by themselves the fire got away from the ranch crew. Ended up burning 600,000 acres. What if that crew had stepped up and helped?
 
Saturday late in the day we came through the town of Richland. The wind was howling. The direction it was blowing I thought good, it will blow the fire to the snake and then have no where to burn. The bad side which I didn't think about was the fire on the other side of the river. The Tarter fire on the Idaho side grew 80,000 acres that evening. It is now over 100,000 acres and sitting on the edge of Weiser Idaho
 
Most of the area burned was grass and sage brush. Sage grouse and their habitat are huge issue around here. Intentionally burning sage grouse habitat would probably putting one in jail. I have never heard of the BLM doing any prescribed burns. The few that do occur are on private ground and happen in late October when you have to work to get it to burn.
@Dave, I know it's dry. Are the fires burning in a mosaic pattern or are they completely uniform and are leaving "no blade of grass unscorched"? I know you know that ecosystems are very complex Yes, the fires do burn sage grouse and their habitat, but sage grouse are also dependent upon fire and the mosaic pattern of habitat that it creates. In other words, fire is required to create new sage brush habitat that is required for the species survival. In order for fire to do this, and the only way to do this, is to burn/destroy existing sage brush habitat. Fires on the Colville Reservation when I was the (I was on the BAER Team (Burned Area Emergency Rehabilitation Team) for fires when I was there. You will have to look up the Grasshopper fire that was there by buffalo lake. It burned in a mosaic pattern. Fire suppression tried 5 times to burn these 'islands' using the potassium permanganate 'ping-pong' balls before giving up. These islands were seen as fire hazards, yet they would not burn. These islands were also sanctuaries for surviving sage grouse and the islands became key habitat locations for the birds following the fire. Burned areas became drumming grounds and a 'buffet' for dinner.
 
There was one 15 years ago or so in southeast Oregon. Lightning fire at the White Horse ranch. The ranch crew almost had the fire controlled. A BLM crew rolled in but they didn't have a boss with them. So they went to setting up their camp. Working by themselves the fire got away from the ranch crew. Ended up burning 600,000 acres. What if that crew had stepped up and helped?
I was no longer in Oregon, but I remember that snafu of lost control.
 
Drove east from Fallon, Nevada on highway 50 today and went by a fire by Austen, NV, another by Ely, NV, and now there is one somewhere close to Delta, Utah. These pics are the one south of Ely.

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Hard to really see the scale from these images, but there were a lot of helicopters flying around and they may be in these pics but so small that you can't see them.
I remember the helicopters getting water in the pond/lake in Spring Creek in Nevada (Bedroom community to Elko) where I lived while working for the BLM 23-24 years ago. I'd have to have side by side pictures, but these pictures, if I didn't know better, could have been from my house looking towards the Ruby Mountains.
 

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