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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 2496"><p>The last questimate I heard for changing from endophyte enfested to freindly endophyte was I think 100 bucks an acre. Most of that was probably the multiple sraying to get the old stuff out. Concerning the endophyte enfested pastures and hay. We have a significant amount of clover in the pastures and even the hay fields are pretty well covered. That seems to mitigate some of the effects of the stuff. Also it helps to have cows that were raised on it so that it doesn;t bother them as much. This year we tried something a little different with fescue. Since the seed is where the majority of the endophyte is, we combined the seed then hayed the fields. It;s kind of stemmy, but there is a ton of clover in it so we'll see how it works out over the winter feeding. I've said it before, I hate fescue, but if it wasn't for fescue there would be no cattle in this part of MO</p><p></p><p>dun</p><p></p><p>> They said the endophyte</p><p>> "free" is basically</p><p>> pretty worthless. It just isn't</p><p>> hardy enough and the endophyte</p><p>> infected will come back and crowd</p><p>> it out in a few years.</p><p></p><p>> They highly recommend planting the</p><p>> "friendly" endophyte</p><p>> fescue where possible. It is as</p><p>> hardy as the other, but they</p><p>> realize that many areas of fescue</p><p>> are places you wouldn't pull a</p><p>> drill. They say to pen the cows up</p><p>> for three days when they come off</p><p>> the regular endophyte fescue</p><p>> pastures before they go into a</p><p>> pasture without it. Else the cows</p><p>> will spread what is in 'em. This</p><p>> would apply to feeding the old</p><p>> fescue hay also. Sounds like a guy</p><p>> could change over his pastures</p><p>> over time as long as you keep a</p><p>> plan in place to keep old fescue</p><p>> hay and manure off new fescue</p><p>> pastures. Then talked about</p><p>> "Novel endophyte fescue"</p><p>> or "Max Q Fescue" and a</p><p>> google search for either gets you</p><p>> a lot of info.</p><p></p><p>> On the stockpiling, they said it</p><p>> does appear that the effects of</p><p>> the endophyte dissapate in</p><p>> stockpiled fescue over time, but</p><p>> that the effects are sometimes</p><p>> more or less concentrated due to</p><p>> the growing conditions the fescue</p><p>> endures each year. (Drought makes</p><p>> for more endophyte effects.)</p><p>> Stockpiled fescue grazed late one</p><p>> winter may be worse than what was</p><p>> grazed early another year. In</p><p>> other words we need to know when</p><p>> the endophyte is really bad so we</p><p>> can make sure we let the stockpile</p><p>> wait that year.</p><p></p><p>> Fescue - A weed for all seasons!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 2496"] The last questimate I heard for changing from endophyte enfested to freindly endophyte was I think 100 bucks an acre. Most of that was probably the multiple sraying to get the old stuff out. Concerning the endophyte enfested pastures and hay. We have a significant amount of clover in the pastures and even the hay fields are pretty well covered. That seems to mitigate some of the effects of the stuff. Also it helps to have cows that were raised on it so that it doesn;t bother them as much. This year we tried something a little different with fescue. Since the seed is where the majority of the endophyte is, we combined the seed then hayed the fields. It;s kind of stemmy, but there is a ton of clover in it so we'll see how it works out over the winter feeding. I've said it before, I hate fescue, but if it wasn't for fescue there would be no cattle in this part of MO dun > They said the endophyte > "free" is basically > pretty worthless. It just isn't > hardy enough and the endophyte > infected will come back and crowd > it out in a few years. > They highly recommend planting the > "friendly" endophyte > fescue where possible. It is as > hardy as the other, but they > realize that many areas of fescue > are places you wouldn't pull a > drill. They say to pen the cows up > for three days when they come off > the regular endophyte fescue > pastures before they go into a > pasture without it. Else the cows > will spread what is in 'em. This > would apply to feeding the old > fescue hay also. Sounds like a guy > could change over his pastures > over time as long as you keep a > plan in place to keep old fescue > hay and manure off new fescue > pastures. Then talked about > "Novel endophyte fescue" > or "Max Q Fescue" and a > google search for either gets you > a lot of info. > On the stockpiling, they said it > does appear that the effects of > the endophyte dissapate in > stockpiled fescue over time, but > that the effects are sometimes > more or less concentrated due to > the growing conditions the fescue > endures each year. (Drought makes > for more endophyte effects.) > Stockpiled fescue grazed late one > winter may be worse than what was > grazed early another year. In > other words we need to know when > the endophyte is really bad so we > can make sure we let the stockpile > wait that year. > Fescue - A weed for all seasons! [/QUOTE]
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