Fertilizer Prices

[chaded]

Has anyone priced fertilizer recently? Is it up? The guy that does our hay on shares told my brother-in-law the other day that the tariffs has increased fertilizer prices. He said he paid $600 a ton (not sure exactly what he got) and that was him spreading it.

 

[Brute 23]

Has anyone priced fertilizer recently? Is it up? The guy that does our hay on shares told my brother-in-law the other day that the tariffs has increased fertilizer prices. He said he paid $600 a ton (not sure exactly what he got) and that was him spreading it.

$600 for 21-10-10
$580 for 21-10-0
I forgot the rest. That's dry. You pick buggy up, put it out, return the buggy.

 

[kenny thomas]

I gave 660 for 19-19-19 6 weeks ago.

 

[Mat Man]

I give 621.00 for equivalent of 19-19-19 with area this weekend !
I sure miss the nitrogen days

 

[SmokinM]

$120 an acre for a 60-40-70 spread here. I think spreading is about $10 an acre maybe $15.

 

[cowman82]

put down a bunch last week.

660/ton for P

435/ton for K

not sure about N.

your grass hay fields are taking 3 times the K as P.

 

[jltrent]

I gave $645/ton for 19-19-19 mixed on the spot that seems very consistent. The white, Red, brown and grey looks the same each load. Also had it coated with a slow release that more than doubles the time to release that cuts down on possible wind and rain/water leach.

 

[ClinchValley86]

Serious question... does it pencil out on yield? Assuming sufficient rain? Hay was so cheap this past winter n all, ya know.

I hay lease ground only and would throw down some N before prices went so high. Haven't bought any since 2019.

It is definitely depleting the ground though.

I'd love to put some down but I just dont know if it'd pay off in my situation.

Should I?

 

[jltrent]

Serious question... does it pencil out on yield? Assuming sufficient rain? Hay was so cheap this past winter n all, ya know.

I hay lease ground only and would throw down some N before prices went so high. Haven't bought any since 2019.

It is definitely depleting the ground though.

I'd love to put some down but I just dont know if it'd pay off in my situation.

Should I?

I know weather plays a very big role, but I have a field that will make 20 5 x 4 rolls spring hay with no fertilizer and 60 bales spring hay with fertilizer. At $30 a roll that would be $1200 and pretty much pay for the fertilizer (2 ton 19-19-19). Also, you will get more fall hay and better winter pasture. If you don't need the hay, it would be hard to come out selling the hay though.

 

[Lucky]

How much fertizer are y'all putting per acre. We are planning on drilling grass seed this year and hate to even call. I've done the soil sample method in the past but it doesn't always work out.

 

[bird dog]

does it pencil out on yield

You also have to consider that fertilized hay is much better quality. Yield doesn't matter much if its just filler.

Saying all that, I feed a lot of poor hay and spend some money on good protein tubs and my cows seem to do as well as anybodies. I'm sure there is a happy medium somewhere.

 

[cowman82]

How much fertizer are y'all putting per acre. We are planning on drilling grass seed this year and hate to even call. I've done the soil sample method in the past but it doesn't always work out.

it really depends on what mix you get for an accurate acre rate. new seedlings if the ground is good I'd put down around 100 - 150 lbs of just nitrogen to the acre. If it needs anything else add it.

Serious question... does it pencil out on yield? Assuming sufficient rain? Hay was so cheap this past winter n all, ya know.

I hay lease ground only and would throw down some N before prices went so high. Haven't bought any since 2019.

It is definitely depleting the ground though.

I'd love to put some down but I just dont know if it'd pay off in my situation.

Should I?

depleted ground won't get much results from just a N application. You need K to grow grass.

I do a 3-1 mix of K to P. So on a buggy I get 3 tons of K and 1 ton of P and 500 lbs of bagged sulfur. This is what a decent hay yield will take away. On depleted ground this usually gets me 3x the hay and a much..much.. higher quality hay. Is it worth the cost? No doubt.

 

[jltrent]

On the fertilizer (19-19-19) I set the buggy on about 2 1/2-inch feed at the back door and it puts around 200-225 lbs per acre. On a good hay year that will turn off good hay. If it turns off dry and a lot of cool nights, it doesn't do as well.

 

[cowman82]

I put mine at 3" . . that'll give you around 250lb. any higher than that and its too much for it to spread right.

 

[gman4691]

$55/ton for chicken litter delivered and spread…a good bit more expensive than last year…don't know whether that's a side effect of tariffs or not.

 

[ClinchValley86]

it really depends on what mix you get for an accurate acre rate. new seedlings if the ground is good I'd put down around 100 - 150 lbs of just nitrogen to the acre. If it needs anything else add it.



depleted ground won't get much results from just a N application. You need K to grow grass.

I do a 3-1 mix of K to P. So on a buggy I get 3 tons of K and 1 ton of P and 500 lbs of bagged sulfur. This is what a decent hay yield will take away. On depleted ground this usually gets me 3x the hay and a much..much.. higher quality hay. Is it worth the cost? No doubt.

I just might try that. It wasn't depleted back then. But it's been cut 3 times a year since then with nothing put back. I wish I could winter cows on the place.

The hay i make off the place keeps the cows fat and they dang near lick the ground. There is some broomsage trying to creep in on one particular hillside.

Does the P and K have effect now or does it take a while to do it's good?

 

[cowman82]

it'll take effect pretty quick. the P has a decent amount of N in it as well. It won't be super bright green like if you put a ton of N on it, but you'll grow a lot thicker and bladier grass.

 

[chaded]

I just might try that. It wasn't depleted back then. But it's been cut 3 times a year since then with nothing put back. I wish I could winter cows on the place.

The hay i make off the place keeps the cows fat and they dang near lick the ground. There is some broomsage trying to creep in on one particular hillside.

Does the P and K have effect now or does it take a while to do it's good?

My hayfield was cut like that for years (20+) without a lot of fertilizer being put back on. Every now and again someone would lime it and maybe put a little fertilizer but rarely. Soil sample I took showed it lack a lot of phosphorus. Like so much I think I would have to fertilize it every year for awhile without cutting any hay to build it back. Lol.

I fertilized it twice a few years back but ever since I had to change hay guys and I am only getting 1/3, I do not fertilize. By all accounts my cows ought to be starving in the winter but they do pretty good on it and I do not supplement. I really don't know what to think about it all…

My field is what we consider bottom land here and our winters are wet so grazing it in the winter would not work well. If I could winter graze it I could probably use it and my pastures and feed very little hay at all. My hay guy is older and will quit at some point soon and I still may fence it and graze it, especially if I could find a reliable source for a little hay.

Buying equipment, fertilizer, etc. does not pencil out here for me. I will likely have to find a way to graze and minimize hay purchased or quit…

 

[ClinchValley86]

My hayfield was cut like that for years (20+) without a lot of fertilizer being put back on. Every now and again someone would lime it and maybe put a little fertilizer but rarely. Soil sample I took showed it lack a lot of phosphorus. Like so much I think I would have to fertilize it every year for awhile without cutting any hay to build it back. Lol.

I fertilized it twice a few years back but ever since I had to change hay guys and I am only getting 1/3, I do not fertilize. By all accounts my cows ought to be starving in the winter but they do pretty good on it and I do not supplement. I really don't know what to think about it all…

My field is what we consider bottom land here and our winters are wet so grazing it in the winter would not work well. If I could winter graze it I could probably use it and my pastures and feed very little hay at all. My hay guy is older and will quit at some point soon and I still may fence it and graze it, especially if I could find a reliable source for a little hay.

Buying equipment, fertilizer, etc. does not pencil out here for me. I will likely have to find a way to graze and minimize hay purchased or quit…

Maintaining older equipment is sure starting to get expensive too.

I cam buy hay for 30 35 a roll out the field. These are fertilized fields. My cows turn their noses up at it and pretty much beg for my not sprayed and not fertilized hay. I'm pretty sure that the majority of people who bale hay just to sell use their tedders daily, even once more right in front of the rake. It's almost always beat to sh!t. I don't even use tubs unless I'm feeding bought hay, regardless of the source.

The one guy that makes quality hay around here gets 85 or 95 for a lightweight 4' tall x 5 long bale.

If some P and K would make a difference for this year's cut I'm thinking about trying it.

I'm gonna bake some here this year. Hopefully half the farm. It's been pasture for 40 years but grows super nice grass. I am excited bout that bit.

Here's to an excellent hay year, everyone .

 

[kenny thomas]

Serious question... does it pencil out on yield? Assuming sufficient rain? Hay was so cheap this past winter n all, ya know.

I hay lease ground only and would throw down some N before prices went so high. Haven't bought any since 2019.

It is definitely depleting the ground though.

I'd love to put some down but I just dont know if it'd pay off in my situation.

Should I?

Do a soil test and see what it says and decide from there. You may not need a lot of extra rented ground if you get yours productive.