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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 318100" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>Hereford.US - I agree with your suggestion that he be evaluated phenotypically! It seems to me that the majority of the comments in relationship to judging certain animals (Bulls or Cows) on the Forum specifies only one or two particular features - "Don't like his daughters" - or - "Not enough milk" - or - "Too much milk" - or - "Frame too small" and so on. The ONE SINGLE problem that I detect with Evaluations of Bulls is: they are NOT analysed in total. Phenotype is only part of the answer. Genetype is only another part of the answer. They are probably the two most important parts in determining what a bull IS -but when it comes down to putting the knock on a bull because of what his progeny LOOKS like, or how his progeny PERFORMS, most breeders seem to forget that a COW is part of that bull's progeny also - and HER phenotype and Genotype has a great deal to do with how the calve's will look and perform!</p><p></p><p>The <strong><u>PICTURE</u></strong> of this bull is just that - a PICTURE! But it is the only image that we have, so we have to go with itl You are right, Hereford.US, and I agree with you - he is a fine bull phenotypically, with the exception of his lower hindquarters not extending down to his gaskins enough. It is difficult to determine from this picture, but I would say that he is probably a little sickle-hocked and light-boned. Observe the angle of his left rear leg and foot position. He stands a little close at the hocks (in this picture!) But the "Gaskin" weakness is the main problem. I will admit that this is nit-picking, but he is what he is. But to determine whether or not he should be used to establish the TYPE of cattle a breeder will be using by keeping replacements for several seasons takes a lot more consideration of characteristics than what the bull alone can bring to the program. But we have discussed this situation in the past, and the solid facts are still the same: Look at the bull's mamma and the cows to which he will be mated before saying he doesn't have any brown around his eyes! That is true, but a small factor with not too high a priority in the final analysis.</p><p></p><p>DOC HARRIS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 318100, member: 1683"] Hereford.US - I agree with your suggestion that he be evaluated phenotypically! It seems to me that the majority of the comments in relationship to judging certain animals (Bulls or Cows) on the Forum specifies only one or two particular features - "Don't like his daughters" - or - "Not enough milk" - or - "Too much milk" - or - "Frame too small" and so on. The ONE SINGLE problem that I detect with Evaluations of Bulls is: they are NOT analysed in total. Phenotype is only part of the answer. Genetype is only another part of the answer. They are probably the two most important parts in determining what a bull IS -but when it comes down to putting the knock on a bull because of what his progeny LOOKS like, or how his progeny PERFORMS, most breeders seem to forget that a COW is part of that bull's progeny also - and HER phenotype and Genotype has a great deal to do with how the calve's will look and perform! The [b][u]PICTURE[/u][/b] of this bull is just that - a PICTURE! But it is the only image that we have, so we have to go with itl You are right, Hereford.US, and I agree with you - he is a fine bull phenotypically, with the exception of his lower hindquarters not extending down to his gaskins enough. It is difficult to determine from this picture, but I would say that he is probably a little sickle-hocked and light-boned. Observe the angle of his left rear leg and foot position. He stands a little close at the hocks (in this picture!) But the "Gaskin" weakness is the main problem. I will admit that this is nit-picking, but he is what he is. But to determine whether or not he should be used to establish the TYPE of cattle a breeder will be using by keeping replacements for several seasons takes a lot more consideration of characteristics than what the bull alone can bring to the program. But we have discussed this situation in the past, and the solid facts are still the same: Look at the bull's mamma and the cows to which he will be mated before saying he doesn't have any brown around his eyes! That is true, but a small factor with not too high a priority in the final analysis. DOC HARRIS [/QUOTE]
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