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<blockquote data-quote="HerefordSire" data-source="post: 430130" data-attributes="member: 4437"><p><em>I am not sure what numbers you are referring to OCF. If you are referring to SC 2.0 and CE 10.0, then I have to disagree with you if I am thinking about this right. It is OK, if calves don't grow and shrink to weaning as they are classified as seed stock. I hope to preserve genes of an animal born in the early 90s which has passed away. Semen availability of great animals like 517 is scare. The 50% 517 projected calves would be the same as crossing Feltons 517 himself with another dam. Therefore, as a side benefit, wouldn't I be saving the cost of semen if I purchased 517's semen directly from a retailer?</em></p><p></p><p><em>Most breeders, including myself, would like the <strong>instant </strong><strong>gratification </strong>and financial rewards of selecting various unique genetic combinations that excel relative to our peers. Many of us prefer to "day trade" our way into stardom instead of laying a foundation by buying fundamentally strong investments for the long term at a good price. In this case, I am interested in preserving fertility and calving ease so I can breed unique quality product down the road. </em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>For me, it is a minor reward to combine genes, through living animals, that my preferred leaders and those in the industry are not implementing. In other words, if I like a breeder that has excellent results with a bull like Marshall or Progress, I may use him since I know he works. At the same time, I would implement a variant to be unique and to set my product ahead of all others and to lock in the advantage of providing consistency, instead of piggybacking someone else's ideas and actions and successes. After all, what differentiates my operation from my leaders if they have the same product?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Don't forget, I have had an opportunity to watch the 517 calves grow and their mothers. I have seen the muscle of the 50% 517 genes, although I am sure some have more muscle and rump relative to other 517 progeny. The line bred 517 daughters I have contain excellent hind quarters, almost like a big time bull. In regards to muscle, well, you probably wouldn't believe the muscle if I showed you. In regards to losing pigment, at least I have pigment to lose of which I am grateful. Whether the loss of pigment actually occurs is entirely possible, just like any other cross as it is not 100% heritable.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HerefordSire, post: 430130, member: 4437"] [i]I am not sure what numbers you are referring to OCF. If you are referring to SC 2.0 and CE 10.0, then I have to disagree with you if I am thinking about this right. It is OK, if calves don’t grow and shrink to weaning as they are classified as seed stock. I hope to preserve genes of an animal born in the early 90s which has passed away. Semen availability of great animals like 517 is scare. The 50% 517 projected calves would be the same as crossing Feltons 517 himself with another dam. Therefore, as a side benefit, wouldn’t I be saving the cost of semen if I purchased 517’s semen directly from a retailer?[/i] [i]Most breeders, including myself, would like the [b]instant [/b][b]gratification [/b]and financial rewards of selecting various unique genetic combinations that excel relative to our peers. Many of us prefer to "day trade" our way into stardom instead of laying a foundation by buying fundamentally strong investments for the long term at a good price. In this case, I am interested in preserving fertility and calving ease so I can breed unique quality product down the road. For me, it is a minor reward to combine genes, through living animals, that my preferred leaders and those in the industry are not implementing. In other words, if I like a breeder that has excellent results with a bull like Marshall or Progress, I may use him since I know he works. At the same time, I would implement a variant to be unique and to set my product ahead of all others and to lock in the advantage of providing consistency, instead of piggybacking someone else's ideas and actions and successes. After all, what differentiates my operation from my leaders if they have the same product? Don't forget, I have had an opportunity to watch the 517 calves grow and their mothers. I have seen the muscle of the 50% 517 genes, although I am sure some have more muscle and rump relative to other 517 progeny. The line bred 517 daughters I have contain excellent hind quarters, almost like a big time bull. In regards to muscle, well, you probably wouldn't believe the muscle if I showed you. In regards to losing pigment, at least I have pigment to lose of which I am grateful. Whether the loss of pigment actually occurs is entirely possible, just like any other cross as it is not 100% heritable.[/i] [/QUOTE]
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