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<blockquote data-quote="plumber_greg" data-source="post: 1107002" data-attributes="member: 9115"><p>Thanks, good read. I have only had one real train wreck. Can you explain it? </p><p>Around 30 heifers, spent the summer in a controlled grazed pasture. Pasture consisted of crown vetch. Really nothing else. Vetch had crowded out everything else. 4 acres to each paddock. 40 acres in all. Proven CE bull turned out May 1, when we go to grass.</p><p>When I preg in the fall, I couldn't believe how fat these heifers were. They had fat on the tailhead like feedlot cattle. All bred, brought them home around Oct 15 when frost killed the vetch. Had never ran cattle on this pasture before.</p><p>At home, turned out with cows grazing fall pasture. Would guess they lost 150 lbs. of fat, but looked a lot better. No grain or supplement till calving, when I also started haying them.</p><p>Started calving, and pulled the first one, he died in a few days. Second one killed the heifer and calf. After that I called my vet when one was gonna' calve. He came and helped me on everyone of the remaining heifers. When they were acting like calving the call went in. All alive when he got there, lost some during delivery. The vet told me to watch them, a hard pull like that is like a car wreck, they will be sore for a while. They were, brought many in from the pasture 2 weeks old that couldn't get around. Ended up losing maybe a third of them.</p><p>Same bull next year, different pasture, no problems. Some of these cows are still in the herd, never anymore problems.</p><p>So, this bunch was fed good in first and second trimester, loosing weight in third. Exact oppsite of what people say should happen, '</p><p>Thoughts?" gs</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="plumber_greg, post: 1107002, member: 9115"] Thanks, good read. I have only had one real train wreck. Can you explain it? Around 30 heifers, spent the summer in a controlled grazed pasture. Pasture consisted of crown vetch. Really nothing else. Vetch had crowded out everything else. 4 acres to each paddock. 40 acres in all. Proven CE bull turned out May 1, when we go to grass. When I preg in the fall, I couldn't believe how fat these heifers were. They had fat on the tailhead like feedlot cattle. All bred, brought them home around Oct 15 when frost killed the vetch. Had never ran cattle on this pasture before. At home, turned out with cows grazing fall pasture. Would guess they lost 150 lbs. of fat, but looked a lot better. No grain or supplement till calving, when I also started haying them. Started calving, and pulled the first one, he died in a few days. Second one killed the heifer and calf. After that I called my vet when one was gonna' calve. He came and helped me on everyone of the remaining heifers. When they were acting like calving the call went in. All alive when he got there, lost some during delivery. The vet told me to watch them, a hard pull like that is like a car wreck, they will be sore for a while. They were, brought many in from the pasture 2 weeks old that couldn't get around. Ended up losing maybe a third of them. Same bull next year, different pasture, no problems. Some of these cows are still in the herd, never anymore problems. So, this bunch was fed good in first and second trimester, loosing weight in third. Exact oppsite of what people say should happen, ' Thoughts?" gs [/QUOTE]
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