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<blockquote data-quote="circlet" data-source="post: 421791" data-attributes="member: 3753"><p>some of you are saying that the younger ones don't have the interest, well personally i'd probably sell a kidney if i thought it could get me into farming or ranching! it's been all i've ever wanted to do but evidently it hasn't been God's plan for me (to this point at least). my farmer grandpa died when i was too young to take over so his life of hard work went by the wayside, and my father-in-law rancher has 4 sons who are in line way before i am in the inheritance pecking order <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>having a case of sour grapes leads me to pay alot of attention to what goes on around me in the ag world though (plus i still work in the cattle industry) and in my small portion of the world it seems to me that alot of guys who inherited well and who got a few breaks along the way - from people who valued them as a person and valued the agricultural professions - most of these same guys have forgotten where they came from and aren't really very willing to give back to us in the next generation. don't get me wrong, i'm not looking for handouts, but a perfect example is my brother, he worked for a guy for many years, the story told was always "if it weren't for the kindness and generosity of a few people, i wouldn't be a farmer, so i want to help a young guy out" well, last year, when it was time for my brother's boss to hang it up and rent out his land, do you think he gave my brother a shot? nope...it went to one of the big guys who get's hundreds of thousands in subsidies and who could buck up and pay a ridiculous cash rent. my brother's boss was then confused as to why my brother quit him and went to work in town? that is a pretty common story around my area. in complete honesty, i could give you 3 more examples just off the top of my head.</p><p></p><p>the farming culture in illinios and iowa in particular has really went this direction. i read that in 2004 the average farmer in illinois made $65k, i know it's rare to find a farmer around here without a brand new chevy 2500 every other year and a house in the ozarks or in minnesota. the "freedom to farm" act that our wonderful politicians gave us has basically squeezed out any family farmers and young farmers trying to start out on their own because you have farmers getting literally millions of dollars in subsidies (not making that up, look at this website <a href="http://farm.ewg.org/farm" target="_blank">http://farm.ewg.org/farm</a> ) </p><p></p><p>I know I probably sound like a crybaby, I'm really not. I fully realize that this is a tough old world and no one gets just exactly what they want. I also know the temptation for many to cash in big on their property is probably very strong. But the normal human tendency towards greed, coupled with the lending environment finishes the deal on someone trying to break into ag or expand their small operation. How in the world does anyone come up with 25% down on a large farm or ranch? that boggles my mind actually! I've really wondered what the next generation of farmer/rancher will look like, I think they will simply be hired hands at best, with not much real chance to work for themselves and build something for their families. I know I haven't figured out how to crack into the biz like I've wanted to, so if any of you have a ranch somewhere west of the missouri river that you wanna sell to someone who'll use it to grow cows, hay and kids and will keep the young yuppies and old hippies away let me know!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> :cboy:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="circlet, post: 421791, member: 3753"] some of you are saying that the younger ones don't have the interest, well personally i'd probably sell a kidney if i thought it could get me into farming or ranching! it's been all i've ever wanted to do but evidently it hasn't been God's plan for me (to this point at least). my farmer grandpa died when i was too young to take over so his life of hard work went by the wayside, and my father-in-law rancher has 4 sons who are in line way before i am in the inheritance pecking order :) having a case of sour grapes leads me to pay alot of attention to what goes on around me in the ag world though (plus i still work in the cattle industry) and in my small portion of the world it seems to me that alot of guys who inherited well and who got a few breaks along the way - from people who valued them as a person and valued the agricultural professions - most of these same guys have forgotten where they came from and aren't really very willing to give back to us in the next generation. don't get me wrong, i'm not looking for handouts, but a perfect example is my brother, he worked for a guy for many years, the story told was always "if it weren't for the kindness and generosity of a few people, i wouldn't be a farmer, so i want to help a young guy out" well, last year, when it was time for my brother's boss to hang it up and rent out his land, do you think he gave my brother a shot? nope...it went to one of the big guys who get's hundreds of thousands in subsidies and who could buck up and pay a ridiculous cash rent. my brother's boss was then confused as to why my brother quit him and went to work in town? that is a pretty common story around my area. in complete honesty, i could give you 3 more examples just off the top of my head. the farming culture in illinios and iowa in particular has really went this direction. i read that in 2004 the average farmer in illinois made $65k, i know it's rare to find a farmer around here without a brand new chevy 2500 every other year and a house in the ozarks or in minnesota. the "freedom to farm" act that our wonderful politicians gave us has basically squeezed out any family farmers and young farmers trying to start out on their own because you have farmers getting literally millions of dollars in subsidies (not making that up, look at this website [url=http://farm.ewg.org/farm]http://farm.ewg.org/farm[/url] ) I know I probably sound like a crybaby, I'm really not. I fully realize that this is a tough old world and no one gets just exactly what they want. I also know the temptation for many to cash in big on their property is probably very strong. But the normal human tendency towards greed, coupled with the lending environment finishes the deal on someone trying to break into ag or expand their small operation. How in the world does anyone come up with 25% down on a large farm or ranch? that boggles my mind actually! I've really wondered what the next generation of farmer/rancher will look like, I think they will simply be hired hands at best, with not much real chance to work for themselves and build something for their families. I know I haven't figured out how to crack into the biz like I've wanted to, so if any of you have a ranch somewhere west of the missouri river that you wanna sell to someone who'll use it to grow cows, hay and kids and will keep the young yuppies and old hippies away let me know!! :) :cboy: [/QUOTE]
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