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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1509844" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>Maybe in your area there is more money in milking, but here there isn't. I know several farmers that have been buying farms, and I have seen some of their balance sheets. Most are in hock up to their eyeballs. Sure they have alot and the banks keep loaning them money, but they are so deep in debt they will never get out. There is a farm that went big for this area, about 2,000 cows and they say the grand children will never pay off the debt. Yes, many do drive nice SUV's, many have new (er) trucks and alot of farm equipment....but they don't own it, they "rent it" from the money lenders. </p><p></p><p>The gov't needs to stop all these subsidy payments too. Pay a decent price for the goods produced, and stop all the handouts that often go to the big farmers. I think there should be a "safety net" so that on a bad year, all the farms do not go broke, like droughts etc., but there has to be a more equitable way to provide some base without giving everyone an incentive to produce for the gov't handouts. </p><p></p><p>It is a shame that we have gotten to where we are, and that the farm economy is so based on what is decided in Washington and the farm bill that is not about the farmer anymore. Most farmers I know that really care about what they are doing, want to make a decent living....not get rich but just make a decent living. As the farms get bigger, and more mechanized, they are also affecting all the support industries and these are slowly dying out.....</p><p></p><p>There are "kids" that maybe would work farm jobs if they could get a decent wage.... but for the most part more of them want the easiest way out.....and that is not sweating at a job that gives a sense of satisfaction. How many employed younger people are "happy" or even have a sense of satisfaction at their job nowadays? For many, it is "just a job"; and there is little pride in doing a job right either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1509844, member: 25884"] Maybe in your area there is more money in milking, but here there isn't. I know several farmers that have been buying farms, and I have seen some of their balance sheets. Most are in hock up to their eyeballs. Sure they have alot and the banks keep loaning them money, but they are so deep in debt they will never get out. There is a farm that went big for this area, about 2,000 cows and they say the grand children will never pay off the debt. Yes, many do drive nice SUV's, many have new (er) trucks and alot of farm equipment....but they don't own it, they "rent it" from the money lenders. The gov't needs to stop all these subsidy payments too. Pay a decent price for the goods produced, and stop all the handouts that often go to the big farmers. I think there should be a "safety net" so that on a bad year, all the farms do not go broke, like droughts etc., but there has to be a more equitable way to provide some base without giving everyone an incentive to produce for the gov't handouts. It is a shame that we have gotten to where we are, and that the farm economy is so based on what is decided in Washington and the farm bill that is not about the farmer anymore. Most farmers I know that really care about what they are doing, want to make a decent living....not get rich but just make a decent living. As the farms get bigger, and more mechanized, they are also affecting all the support industries and these are slowly dying out..... There are "kids" that maybe would work farm jobs if they could get a decent wage.... but for the most part more of them want the easiest way out.....and that is not sweating at a job that gives a sense of satisfaction. How many employed younger people are "happy" or even have a sense of satisfaction at their job nowadays? For many, it is "just a job"; and there is little pride in doing a job right either. [/QUOTE]
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