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inyati13

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Fire Sweep and Anne ask to see Star. I took some other pics too.
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Kris, you like the Fat Butt, she is beautiful to me! She is out of the double diamond herd.
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This is the cow that has a deep cervix. You better go in on a safety rope like Cowgirl_jenna suggested. But if people remember my herd from 3 years ago I have slowly down-sized some of those 2000 lb category cows!
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She came as an open heifer as a discount from Rocking P. Due in March with first calf. There was a problem with her pedigree so I got her at pound rate. I think she must be mostly angus because she looks different than my other Simangus.
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This cow's stance reminds me of an Inyati (matabele for cape buffalo)
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Cannot exclude the Boss, notice she has the least coat of any cow. She is in that 1700-1800 range. The last of my original cows.
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glacierridge":3ilyszla said:
It's so fluffy I'm gonna die!!!
(Despicable Me)

The girls look good!!
I think yours have more fluff than my northern girls already.
But maybe the northern girls have thicker blood?
;)
Thanks, Anne. I believe it is the Simmental influence. BTW note the cow with the Cape Buffalo stance. She is the one that had that big sagging udder. Not too bad now. But I will be one to agree with Texasbred on her, she is going to get worse in the coming years. I would not be surprised if she is gone in the next 3 to 5 years!!!!
 
glacierridge":y1cvlb7f said:
It's so fluffy I'm gonna die!!!
(Despicable Me)

The girls look good!!
I think yours have more fluff than my northern girls already.
But maybe the northern girls have thicker blood?
;)
Yes I believe we do! Unless they are on blood thinners!!! :? ;-)
 
Cows are nice, but I'm really admiring that limestone covered lot they're on!
We just picked up a roll of 'Cow Carpet', a geotextile designed to be a barrier between the dirt and limestone so you build a solid base. We'll be working on a hay feeding area today. We use our hay processor to lay down a windrow of ground hay on one side of a single line electric fence, and the cows stand on the other side and reach under. The mud and manure get pretty deep by spring.

Do you scrape your lot or is it a new lot?
 
Chris H":332xt5lw said:
Cows are nice, but I'm really admiring that limestone covered lot they're on!
We just picked up a roll of 'Cow Carpet', a geotextile designed to be a barrier between the dirt and limestone so you build a solid base. We'll be working on a hay feeding area today. We use our hay processor to lay down a windrow of ground hay on one side of a single line electric fence, and the cows stand on the other side and reach under. The mud and manure get pretty deep by spring.

Do you scrape your lot or is it a new lot?
Chris it is new. I will scape when necessary. It is made with limestone mine waste. It only cost me $150 per 22 tons/load. It sets up like concrete so I think it will scrape off without too much loss. I can always put down a little each year to keep it leveled off. I would like to get the No 2s off as they may cause some foot bruising.
 
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Ron, love the pics! We need to give you some lessons on cattle photography ;-) I know you love the head (if you do not like their head, it is hard to look at the rest!), but a good photo will be a direct side shot so you can see the slope of the shoulder and hip, length, and muscle definition. When you are out with the camera again, take a side shot of Star and the Fat Butt. I suspect the Fat Butt is like most, heavy muscled but lacking in rib shape and depth. She has the Fat Butt head, that is for sure! Star looks thick in her brisket in that shot. I would like to see a different angle. Does that 15 cow have some Pinzgauar in her? The "Boss" sure looks Hereford to me! Short little ears :D And your udders look great. No long teats or bad quarters from what I can see. A Simm, or SimmAngus bull will go very nice on all of them!
 
Fire Sweep Ranch":3j9lh4mm said:
Ron, love the pics! We need to give you some lessons on cattle photography ;-) I know you love the head (if you do not like their head, it is hard to look at the rest!), but a good photo will be a direct side shot so you can see the slope of the shoulder and hip, length, and muscle definition. When you are out with the camera again, take a side shot of Star and the Fat Butt. I suspect the Fat Butt is like most, heavy muscled but lacking in rib shape and depth. She has the Fat Butt head, that is for sure! Star looks thick in her brisket in that shot. I would like to see a different angle. Does that 15 cow have some Pinzgauar in her? The "Boss" sure looks Hereford to me! Short little ears :D And your udders look great. No long teats or bad quarters from what I can see. A Simm, or SimmAngus bull will go very nice on all of them!

Well, I have never been so hurt in my life. I am extending to you an open invitation to visit my farm and provide me individual instruction. On 15, she is a commercial heifer I procured from Maple Heights Farm, Owenton, KY. I remember Jeanne White called her a skunk tail. I thought he told me she is a simmental cross. She had a calf in Late Jan. It weighed 745 when it sold as a top grade steer in September. She will calf soon. No you are keen, I do focus on the head end. When I was looking at about 40 bulls at Rocking P before Keith left for the North American, I told Keith, you pick 3 you know are good and I will decide from there. He said he has watched me pick for three years now and even though I don't handle the judging well, he said I always pick the ones he thought was the better ones. I needed his help on the bulls. Don't it make sense. He feeds them every day?
 
Kris, take a look at that last cow. She is 8. Does well, gets bred back. Has good feet. She is the roach back, I think that is what dun called it. She is big and as the boss, she hits hard. I was out this morning and after that hematoma experience, I saw her hit a couple cows when I put out mixed feed. She trys to get it all. I am thinking when her calf is about 6 months, I might sell her and buy a heifer of more moderate size to replace her. What do you think?
 
inyati13":v06ir3xh said:
Kris, take a look at that last cow. She is 8. Does well, gets bred back. Has good feet. She is the roach back, I think that is what dun called it. She is big and as the boss, she hits hard. I was out this morning and after that hematoma experience, I saw her hit a couple cows when I put out mixed feed. She trys to get it all. I am thinking when her calf is about 6 months, I might sell her and buy a heifer of more moderate size to replace her. What do you think?

Out with the old, in with the new ;-) Roach back is just unattractive. When she leaves, someone else will just take over as the boss, and probably hurt just as hard. The things to consider:
Does she fit the direction you are going as a breeder (I don't think so)?
Is she too big for current market trends in your area? Only you can answer that!
I like the idea of selling while she is still young, and has a good looking udder. But, I do not like her head and for me if I can not like the head she goes quicker than if I did like the head.
It is ultimately up to you, but if she was in my herd she would be consigned to the next sale. :D
 
glacierridge":2e3s6s42 said:
Ron I like that little one with the black nose, 932.
What is it's percentage? Heifer? Keeper?
093Z is 5/8 simmental and 3/8 angus. She is 12 months old. She is small and not heavy muscled. Maybe not great but nice to handle. I will look at her again at breeding. I will breed her in June. I have her cycle down and it is regular. I will probably AI her to Top Hand. She is tested DD, AM, CA, and NH free.
 
Fire Sweep Ranch":2jck7epo said:
inyati13":2jck7epo said:
Kris, take a look at that last cow. She is 8. Does well, gets bred back. Has good feet. She is the roach back, I think that is what dun called it. She is big and as the boss, she hits hard. I was out this morning and after that hematoma experience, I saw her hit a couple cows when I put out mixed feed. She trys to get it all. I am thinking when her calf is about 6 months, I might sell her and buy a heifer of more moderate size to replace her. What do you think?

Out with the old, in with the new ;-) Roach back is just unattractive. When she leaves, someone else will just take over as the boss, and probably hurt just as hard. The things to consider:
Does she fit the direction you are going as a breeder (I don't think so)?
Is she too big for current market trends in your area? Only you can answer that!
I like the idea of selling while she is still young, and has a good looking udder. But, I do not like her head and for me if I can not like the head she goes quicker than if I did like the head.
It is ultimately up to you, but if she was in my herd she would be consigned to the next sale. :D

Kris, thanks. That is a good response. Just the right information in a small package. The Last of the Mohicans.
 
inyati13":1v4iyvks said:
glacierridge":1v4iyvks said:
Ron I like that little one with the black nose, 932.
What is it's percentage? Heifer? Keeper?
093Z is 5/8 simmental and 3/8 angus. She is 12 months old. She is small and not heavy muscled. Maybe not great but nice to handle. I will look at her again at breeding. I will breed her in June. I have her cycle down and it is regular. I will probably AI her to Top Hand. She is tested DD, AM, CA, and NH free.

Can you get a side shot?
And a butt?
I would like to see more of her please.
Even if she's not built like a Holly doesn't mean she might not be a good beast.
It's good that she's free of all them.
Who is her sire?
Not your bull I'm assuming since those are the percentages?
 
She is a cooperative herd deal from the Rocking P folks. Fire Sweep just introduced me to that term. Her sire is RP/MP MR. 081W, a bull in the Rocking P herd (not sure they still hold him). He is a frozen embryo Bull.
 
Kris, first, here is today's pic of your namesake. 6 weeks old. Almost as pretty as you. :D
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Now here is the roachback's calf. I want to know what you think. The sire is Casper my angus bull that I have sold. Before I decide to cull her, I think you should see the calf. Two month old calf. Also she is already bred back to deliver in July. Do you have any annotations to your thoughts?
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Chuckie":3e5qiu4i said:
The first wooly worms of the year. No stripes, what does this mean?
They have been around here for a month. Got to watch at the shop. If they get in you shoes, the bristles will give you the itch.

If they don't have stripes, it means their in casual dress.
 

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