Extreme?

[MikeC]

After hearing about all the "Funnelbutt" cattle. It got me to wondering. Can we go too far the extreme the other way?

This calf is 224 days old, weaned on Monday (has shrunk a bit) and looks almost disproportionate in the back end. Back end is taller also. Looks like he's walking downhill all the time.

Kinda proud of the fact that he weighed 920 straight off mama with no creep tho'.

Butt looks too big for the rest of his body. We'll see.

 

[xbred]

that's the kind....

 

[OK Jeanne]

Congrats MikeC---very nice looking steer!!! I suspect he will
make a terrific beef; keeping him for your own freezer?
There's nothing better (or safer) than home-grown beef!!!

 

[3waycross]

Nice rear end. His mother must be a milking machine.

Breed?

He looks like he's not taking the weaning too good though.

 

[ArmyDoc]

Can you post a picture of him from the side? Taking a picture from this angle is going to magnify his butt just because of the perspective issues caused by his butt being closer to the camera than his head.

 

[OK Jeanne]

After hearing about all the "Funnelbutt" cattle. It got me to wondering. Can we go too far the extreme the other way?

This calf is 224 days old, weaned on Monday (has shrunk a bit) and looks almost disproportionate in the back end. Back end is taller also. Looks like he's walking downhill all the time.

Kinda proud of the fact that he weighed 920 straight off mama with no creep tho'.

Butt looks too big for the rest of his body. We'll see.

How much would you guess that he will weigh when totally
grown & finished out with enough backfat to age well in
the cooler? How big is his sire and dam? Look like a
purebred Char to me. Handsome!

 

[MikeC]

He's no steer. He's got a syrup bucket full of testicles, they are just hidden by his leg in this pic.

Jeanne, he'd prolly finish at 14-15 months at around 1500 with 950 lb carcass w/ about .25" - .33" of fat.

I'll measure him in a day or two. He'll be about a frame 6.

I'll try to get a better pic. He's missing his mama bad now.

Nobody thinks this calf is odd looking?

 

[randiliana]

I'll try to get a better pic. He's missing his mama bad now.

Nobody thinks this calf is odd looking?

Not me, I've got a heifer with more hip than that. Don't think she will weigh quite as much as him at weaning though.

 

[MikeC]

I'll try to get a better pic. He's missing his mama bad now.

Nobody thinks this calf is odd looking?

Not me, I've got a heifer with more hip than that. Don't think she will weigh quite as much as him at weaning though.

I must not have made myself clear. I'm not talking about just "Hip". I'm talking about the whole rear of the calf in relation to the front. HEIGHT INCLUDED.

It's hard to get what I'm talking about here on a picture but he does look odd to me and was thinking about keeping him.

I'd like to see that heifer!

 

[ALACOWMAN]

take him to tenn, he should do good on them hill sides . has he always looked that way

 

[randiliana]

I'll try to get a better pic. He's missing his mama bad now.

Nobody thinks this calf is odd looking?

Not me, I've got a heifer with more hip than that. Don't think she will weigh quite as much as him at weaning though.

I must not have made myself clear. I'm not talking about just "Hip". I'm talking about the whole rear of the calf in relation to the front. HEIGHT INCLUDED.

It's hard to get what I'm talking about here on a picture but he does look odd to me and was thinking about keeping him.

I'd like to see that heifer!

Ahhh, I know in horses, as long as their hips are higher than their withers it means they are still growing. Could be that he is going to do a LOT more growing if they are that much higher than the shoulders. He may end up a pretty large framed animal.

Here is the best pic I have (that shows her hip) for now. She is still out on pasture on her mama, and not very easy to get a picture of. When we weigh I will make a point of getting a better batch of pictures.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

I'll try to get a better pic. He's missing his mama bad now.

Nobody thinks this calf is odd looking?

Not me, I've got a heifer with more hip than that. Don't think she will weigh quite as much as him at weaning though.

I must not have made myself clear. I'm not talking about just "Hip". I'm talking about the whole rear of the calf in relation to the front. HEIGHT INCLUDED.

It's hard to get what I'm talking about here on a picture but he does look odd to me and was thinking about keeping him.

I'd like to see that heifer!

Ahhh, I know in horses,

• as long as their hips are higher than their withers it means they are still growing

. Could be that he is going to do a LOT more growing if they are that much higher than the shoulders. He may end up a pretty large framed animal.

Here is the best pic I have (that shows her hip) for now. She is still out on pasture on her mama, and not very easy to get a picture of. When we weigh I will make a point of getting a better batch of pictures.

i don't doubt that your right about that. that heifer even looks a little tall in the ass

 

[randiliana]

i don't doubt that your right about that. that heifer even looks a little tall in the ass

You know, I never paid much attention to that, but you are right, she is tall in the hip as well. It is really funny watching her walk, she sort of waddles...

 

[EasternLimiGal]

I dont think the bull it too extreme. I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject I guess, but we run Limo's and I've ALWAYS had a problem high back ends and low fronts when they're young.. but once they hit breeding age they always even out. It just sucks for in the show ring. But everyone of our heifers we've kept over from our cows have all evened out after their yearling year and are all nice tall even cows now. It's just the way they develop. Even with the bulls we've sold they always even out. Once they develop more there shouldn't be to much of a problem.

Nice looking bull by the way.

 

[TSR]

After hearing about all the "Funnelbutt" cattle. It got me to wondering. Can we go too far the extreme the other way?

This calf is 224 days old, weaned on Monday (has shrunk a bit) and looks almost disproportionate in the back end. Back end is taller also. Looks like he's walking downhill all the time.

Kinda proud of the fact that he weighed 920 straight off mama with no creep tho'.

Butt looks too big for the rest of his body. We'll see.

Although for some reason I can't open these pictures at this site, I will comment. Yes I think you can go to extremes on the muscling especially with British breeds. I have said this before, I wouldn't want my Angus to look like a limousin. Myabe the focus has been on carcass because I am not so sure we can ever raise commodity beef as cheap as the countries that import to us, so maybe we might ought to focus on quality, especially for the future. Of course i know ther is more to quality than marbling but right now it is the focus and will always be a big part if not the biggest part of the quality picture. JMHO

 

[KNERSIE]

I also believe that any extreme is unwanted, but in this "steer"'s case I don't think he is extreme, just very well muscled and completely out of balance, he probably just grew faster than all his body parts could keep up. He will even out and look more in proportion with age. He doesn't look fat, so with his weaning weight i would have expected him to be taller than a frame 6. Have you measured him or was it just a guestimate.

 

[3waycross]

I'll try to get a better pic. He's missing his mama bad now.

Nobody thinks this calf is odd looking?

Not me, I've got a heifer with more hip than that. Don't think she will weigh quite as much as him at weaning though.

I must not have made myself clear. I'm not talking about just "Hip". I'm talking about the whole rear of the calf in relation to the front. HEIGHT INCLUDED.

It's hard to get what I'm talking about here on a picture but he does look odd to me and was thinking about keeping him.

I'd like to see that heifer!

Ahhh, I know in horses, as long as their hips are higher than their withers it means they are still growing. Could be that he is going to do a LOT more growing if they are that much higher than the shoulders. He may end up a pretty large framed animal.

Here is the best pic I have (that shows her hip) for now. She is still out on pasture on her mama, and not very easy to get a picture of. When we weigh I will make a point of getting a better batch of pictures.

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That is one purty heifer. How much do you think it would cost to mail her to colorado. I'd like to have a hundred just like her.

Is she out of your shorthorn bull. If she is you can just mail the bull too. or at least some semen

 

[ga. prime]

Mike, have you ever put a bull in the Tifton bull test sale? They need some good chars there. The sale is dominated by Angus and Simmental. The one you're showing here most certainly would have the highest WW of any breed there. That, to me, is worth a lot. I can't form any kind of opinion on his conformation from the pics.

 

[mnmtranching]

I think he's a heck of a chunk of beef and a growing machine.

Don't think he would be a good range bull. Covering a lot of ground and cows might be a problem.

 

[DOC HARRIS]

MikeC-

Yes, I think that he looks a little odd. He looks like a typical gangly, long-legged teen age kid, which is to be expected at his age now. He is cow hocked, stands too close behind, he is knock-kneed and splay footed in front - and - there is a muscle anomaly in conjunction with his right rump area. His skeletal frame grew too fast for his musculature to mollify his appearance. When he is four years old and has his mature look and growth factors in hand - he is going to be a gigantic bull, and , in my opinion, too big for economical beef production, and might still have that hip anomaly! I would probably not keep him as a herd bull.

DOC HARRIS