Expensive day at work

[Nesikep]

We had a rough day today.. first a diff in a logging truck piled up, that's not going to be cheap to fix.. and an hour later it got a whole lot more expensive

It's a "danglehead" processor.. but it's doing a little more dangling than it ought to

 

[Silver]

Ouch. That hurts. You ever watch I C Weld videos on YouTube? He fixes those on a regular basis. But he's in Texas and if memory serves Texas is close to Mexico so the travel would be a killer.

 

[wbvs58]

Those Indians, that is the curry eating ones and the Pakistanis are good at fixing that sort of stuff, all on dirt floors and bare feet using a bit of cardboard and smoke glass for a welding helmet.

Ken

 

[cowman82]

I heard the chinese ones won't do that.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Ouch. That hurts. You ever watch I C Weld videos on YouTube? He fixes those on a regular basis. But he's in Texas and if memory serves Texas is close to Mexico so the travel would be a killer.

Yep I've watched him straighten and fix those up better than new at a fraction of new price. Guy has some talent.

 

[cfpinz]

That'll buff out....

 

[Lucky]

Boom can be fixed but those cylinders are toast. Be interesting to know what the parts will be...$30k?

 

[jltrent]

That would ruin your day, 4-shore.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Boom can be fixed but those cylinders are toast. Be interesting to know what the parts will be...$30k?

I'll be we'll north of there if they buy all new Cat parts. A rod for the cylinder is nearly $5000, a cylinder barrel is $5500, add in all the various parts, and the boom section... yikes


In my 8 years of danglehead CTL ownership I broke 2 booms and 2 swing planetary gearboxes, each time I was doing things I knew I shouldn't be doing. Usually trying to slew a tree that was limb locked or just plain big that I had no business moving. I cry when I think of what I spent on parts over the years.

A successful ctl owner told me when I bought my equipment to think of yourself as a surgeon with a scalpel and not a lumberjack with an ax. He was 100% correct.

 

[Lucky]

I'll be we'll north of there if they buy all new Cat parts. A rod for the cylinder is nearly $5000, a cylinder barrel is $5500, add in all the various parts, and the boom section... yikes

I've never owned an excavator but was looking at one pretty serious a few years back. I can't afford much so did a little parts searching and everything was so high. I figured $7,000 per cylinder and $16-20k for a boom on this deal. That's just a guess though.

The repairs some of these heavy equipment guys can do are very impressive. Hopefully they can get that section repaired for a reasonable price. I watch Jon Johnson from Johnson Trades and a few others and they can fix about anything that can be welded on I guess.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

If that were to happen to my excavator I would repair the boom myself. I would check the cylinder barrels for straightness and roundness and if good just have new rods made and pistons/glands if necessary. Since mine is personal for farm use downtime isn't too costly.

When I was logging it wasn't about the cost of the repair so much it was more get it fixed ASAP, because downtime was a killer. Parts cost 50k bucks but are available today then I would be in my truck on the way to pick them up, then thrash to get it back together.

 

[Nesikep]

Ouch. That hurts. You ever watch I C Weld videos on YouTube? He fixes those on a regular basis. But he's in Texas and if memory serves Texas is close to Mexico so the travel would be a killer.

IC Weld (Isaac) is awesome.. he's SO chill, just goes about his work.. he is amazing with a torch! I like how he just says "I don't know if this is the way you're supposed to fix this, but this is the way *I* am going to fix it.
I've watched many of his "Broken Banana" videos.

This machine is getting traded off, and it'll probably get traded off as-is (the deal was already in the works before this happened)


Since we have lots of other equipment around, I think I'd look at straightening the boom on the machine, one hanging it, perhaps lifted up higher, and one pulling on the head to twist, then a little heat, and you might just get it back.. I'd probably also disconnect the cab-side cylinder to help that side down.

I've become quite good at unsmashing body panels, belly pans, etc, they smash them regularly here..


Here's the blown diff.. power divider blown up and output shaft... going to be cleaning out the housing tomorrow and we SHOULD have the new one arriving around noon.. might be on the road for friday again!


Oh, and bad things do come in 3's.. guy broke the bucket pin on an excavator as well.. though that's a pretty mild screwup

 

[Nesikep]

I've never owned an excavator but was looking at one pretty serious a few years back. I can't afford much so did a little parts searching and everything was so high. I figured $7,000 per cylinder and $16-20k for a boom on this deal. That's just a guess though.

The repairs some of these heavy equipment guys can do are very impressive. Hopefully they can get that section repaired for a reasonable price. I watch Jon Johnson from Johnson Trades and a few others and they can fix about anything that can be welded on I guess.

I think the cylinders are going to be a lot more money than that.. this one was $10K CAD new from CAT, so 7k USD... those boom cylinders have gotta be more than double that much... they're 3x as long and 2x the diameter

Cat prices (and Kenworth) both make my jaw drop on EVERYTHING

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

I think the cylinders are going to be a lot more money than that.. this one was $10K CAD new from CAT, so 7k USD... those boom cylinders have gotta be more than double that much... they're 3x as long and 2x the diameter

Not sure what model that is. But while on the phone with Cat parts this morning for some customer parts I jokingly asked about a boom cylinder for a 330D and he told me $17,658.76.....

 

[Lucky]

Wow. I would have never guessed that much for a cylinder. Are Deere, Volvo, or Case parts similar in price?

 

[Allenw]

My son told me what some of that chromed rod costs per inch, it's stupid expensive. They do some work for cat.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Wow. I would have never guessed that much for a cylinder. Are Deere, Volvo, or Case parts similar in price?

Same cylinder for a comparable Deere is just over 14k and I'd guess the others aren't terrible far off.

The 17k Cat cylinder is available tomorrow even up here in the middle of nowhere, the Deere cylinder is 2-3 weeks lead time. That's why Cat has the market around here even if they are more costly. 2-3 weeks downtime is unacceptable for most operations.

 

[TexasRancher]

That really sucks, hopefully it's an old-age stress failure and not an overload issue/user-operator issue. I always feel better if the equipment gave up the ghost and it wasn't the operator.

 

[wbvs58]

I think the cylinders are going to be a lot more money than that.. this one was $10K CAD new from CAT, so 7k USD... those boom cylinders have gotta be more than double that much... they're 3x as long and 2x the diameter

Cat prices (and Kenworth) both make my jaw drop on EVERYTHING

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Would the cylinder need replacing? Or just make up a new rod for it Nesi? Curtis could do that job for you. (Cutting Edge Engineering). Freight might be an issue though.

Ken

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Would the cylinder need replacing? Or just make up a new rod for it Nesi? Curtis could do that job for you. (Cutting Edge Engineering). Freight might be an issue though.

Ken

Need to check the barrel for straightness and roundness. Piston needs to be checked for the same. Bore of the gland needs to be inspected real well because it was the fulcrum around which the rod bent.

But generally speaking it could be fixed depending on what all is wrong and how cost effective it is to do so.