Excited... and sad

Fire Sweep Ranch

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Well, several breeders in our area asked about putting together a state sale in the spring. We used to have one many moons ago (Simmental of the Ozarks), but it has not been held for years. We hold a state sale in the fall (Fall Harvest), and have good luck with it. Anyway, I was asked to be sale coordinator, and I agreed. It is pretty difficult to get people to get the consignment paperwork in on time, but after a lot of phone calls and help from our northern crew, we are pulling it off! The sale will be at the Springfield Livestock Marketing center, on Saturday (anyone wanting a catalog, PM me because I do not want this to be a sales pitch!).
So, I am excited because I was able to help put a Spring sale together. Now, I am sad, because we are consigning some of our favorite girls. One of the good things about being a smaller breeder is you know your cows well, and have no room for "junk"; it tends to sort itself out quickly. One of the bad things about being a smaller breeder is you have to sell heavily. We are limited on acreage, and therefore for every heifer the kids keep we have to sell a cow. That is the hard part. Below is a few pictures of some of my favorite girls that are leaving next week.
This is Kitty (AVAS 2W). We bought her as a 7 month old calf for our middle daughter to show. She never won anything big, but she has been a super cow. Her first calf was a red calf we steered for the freezer, and he won the carcass contest grading Choice+ and YG 1.4. She has thrown a bull every year, except for the few embryos she raised for us. Last year, she had a fantastic heifer, we call Kat (registered Kitty Kat.... cute!). We AI bred her to Iron Hide for a September calf. Her calves always wean off at least 65% of her weight (she is small framed, a Shear Force sired cow that might be a 5.0 frame). She averages around 1200 pounds when she is fat.
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Her heifer that our daughter is showing
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This other consignment is another tough one. She is just a three year old, and calved late February with an Upgrade heifer calf. Lilly was shown at the American Royal several years ago as a yearling, and placed second in her class. We are keeping her heifer from last year to replace her. Lilly is sired by Movin Forward, and out of a first calf heifer herself. Her grand dam is still in our herd, and gives us a great one every year.
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her calf
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The other two I do not have pictures of, but one is my son's first show heifer, Brooks Jackie. She has carried an embryo EVERY year for us! She is 6 years old, and AI bred to Iron Hide also. The last one is a bred heifer, due in October to Broadway. That belongs to the oldest daughter, and she has a good show heifer already from last year so she is letting this heifer go.
It is sad to see some of our proven matrons leave, but I know we have to sell if we are going to keep. I hope they give their new owners years and years of production like they have done for us.
 
That;s one of the reasons we quit selling at the annual MO Red Angus sale. Felt that we had to consign the stuff from the upper 10% of the herd. Sadly not all of the consignors did, some only consigned stuff from what must have been (or should have been) to bottom 5%
 
It is hard to let good cows go.. I'm nearing the point with my herd that I'm culling 'good' cows as well.

I like Kitty, but I find Lilly has a really poor front quarters.
 
Nesikep":3hrr4sfn said:
It is hard to let good cows go.. I'm nearing the point with my herd that I'm culling 'good' cows as well.

I like Kitty, but I find Lilly has a really poor front quarters.


Nesi: I have followed Lilly for a couple years. The picture does not do her justice. She has been one of my favorites.

I like Kitty. I had the honor of breeding her to Iron Hide. :D In fact, Kris is stingy with her Iron Hide semen so allowing me to do the honors was a compliment.

Kris: You need an editor. :hide:

Seriously, I see tons of Sale Catalogs. The write-ups are poor. Sometime they make no sense. I will not identify the person, but I called about one particular write-up. The guy admitted that they got the information mixed with the wrong bull.
 
dun":2yob8ro6 said:
That;s one of the reasons we quit selling at the annual MO Red Angus sale. Felt that we had to consign the stuff from the upper 10% of the herd. Sadly not all of the consignors did, some only consigned stuff from what must have been (or should have been) to bottom 5%

Sadly I have seen that too with some consignment sales. Seems like some folks view it as a means of culling, instead of a showcase of their best. Have heard several stories about why certain animals were put in a sale. Sometimes I wonder why somebody would even buy some of them in some sales.
 
Ky hills":gbyoz6n0 said:
dun":gbyoz6n0 said:
That;s one of the reasons we quit selling at the annual MO Red Angus sale. Felt that we had to consign the stuff from the upper 10% of the herd. Sadly not all of the consignors did, some only consigned stuff from what must have been (or should have been) to bottom 5%

Sadly I have seen that too with some consignment sales. Seems like some folks view it as a means of culling, instead of a showcase of their best. Have heard several stories about why certain animals were put in a sale. Sometimes I wonder why somebody would even buy some of them in some sales.

It is a business! If it is legal and adheres to the rules of the sale, I am all for it.

There are high profile breeders who sell all their top quality stock via private sale off the farm. They sell their lower tier stock via consignment. Nothing wrong with having the good sense to make more money.
 
Hope it turns into a nice sale for you all! Good Cattle! Have had a itch to go to some sales west of me sometimes, might could hit it up some day if it works out for it too continue.
 
inyati13":3i9p82xo said:
Ky hills":3i9p82xo said:
dun":3i9p82xo said:
That;s one of the reasons we quit selling at the annual MO Red Angus sale. Felt that we had to consign the stuff from the upper 10% of the herd. Sadly not all of the consignors did, some only consigned stuff from what must have been (or should have been) to bottom 5%

Sadly I have seen that too with some consignment sales. Seems like some folks view it as a means of culling, instead of a showcase of their best. Have heard several stories about why certain animals were put in a sale. Sometimes I wonder why somebody would even buy some of them in some sales.

It is a business! If it is legal and adheres to the rules of the sale, I am all for it.

There are high profile breeders who sell all their top quality stock via private sale off the farm. They sell their lower tier stock via consignment. Nothing wrong with having the good sense to make more money.
The lower end stuff, and we all have them, are sold through the salebarn or are shipped as feeders. If it isn;t of a quaility that I would want in my herd it's a cull and needs to be gone. Not introduced into the gene pool. I know there are those that buy them and breed them, not my problem. We have worked too many years getting a positive reputation, I won;t sacrifice for a few extra bucks. That's just my business model
 
There are high profile breeders who sell all their top quality stock via private sale off the farm. They sell their lower tier stock via consignment. Nothing wrong with having the good sense to make more money.[/quote]
The lower end stuff, and we all have them, are sold through the salebarn or are shipped as feeders. If it isn;t of a quaility that I would want in my herd it's a cull and needs to be gone. Not introduced into the gene pool. I know there are those that buy them and breed them, not my problem. We have worked too many years getting a positive reputation, I won;t sacrifice for a few extra bucks. That's just my business model[/quote]

Dun, we sell ours the same way. We put our name on the line by selling in elite and breeders sales. If you pay top $money you should get top quality. Those are some nice animals that FSR has consigned.
 
dun":orxqwroe said:
inyati13":orxqwroe said:
Ky hills":orxqwroe said:
Sadly I have seen that too with some consignment sales. Seems like some folks view it as a means of culling, instead of a showcase of their best. Have heard several stories about why certain animals were put in a sale. Sometimes I wonder why somebody would even buy some of them in some sales.

It is a business! If it is legal and adheres to the rules of the sale, I am all for it.

There are high profile breeders who sell all their top quality stock via private sale off the farm. They sell their lower tier stock via consignment. Nothing wrong with having the good sense to make more money.
The lower end stuff, and we all have them, are sold through the salebarn or are shipped as feeders. If it isn;t of a quaility that I would want in my herd it's a cull and needs to be gone. Not introduced into the gene pool. I know there are those that buy them and breed them, not my problem. We have worked too many years getting a positive reputation, I won;t sacrifice for a few extra bucks. That's just my business model

Dun, don't you place some responsibility on the buyer? Rarely do sellers place a gun at the head of a buyer.

Buyer: use your eyes. Look. You are under no obligation to buy inferior stock. A penalty is not assessed for leaving a sale empty handed.
 
Thanks guys. I sell my lower end at the stock yard. I have two that will be taking a ride this month, one I am sure is a fescue cow and do not want to pass that on to another breeder. The other one has a sloppy udder, so I will refuse to sell her as a bred to someone else (she has always carried an embryo for us, and we need to cut numbers so she gets to go). If I do not want them, I will not pawn them off to someone else.

Just for reference, this is the cow with the calf, Lilly, at the American Royal when she was a yearling. Her belly is black because we sprayed it with dye... the game played at the American Royal is much different than smaller fairs and most cattle are dyed.
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And one I took at the backdrop
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Ky hills":7s2r5wkw said:
dun":7s2r5wkw said:
That;s one of the reasons we quit selling at the annual MO Red Angus sale. Felt that we had to consign the stuff from the upper 10% of the herd. Sadly not all of the consignors did, some only consigned stuff from what must have been (or should have been) to bottom 5%

Sadly I have seen that too with some consignment sales. Seems like some folks view it as a means of culling, instead of a showcase of their best. Have heard several stories about why certain animals were put in a sale. Sometimes I wonder why somebody would even buy some of them in some sales.

I think some of it has to be on the bred association. No one is forcing you to buy, but if I spend my time and resources to go to a registered sale I expect a min of quality. If you have enough good cattle to offer quality cattle through the registered sale and sell more private treaty go for it, but don't run cull cows through the sale.
 

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