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<blockquote data-quote="gimpyrancher" data-source="post: 1203354" data-attributes="member: 10164"><p>ifarm26,</p><p></p><p>> If the "media," and I put about as much faith in them as I do a rabid skunk,</p><p></p><p>While you don't want us to judge all LE in the same light, you do that above. LEOs are just like the rest of us.</p><p></p><p>> would shed light on the good and not the bad, we probably would not be seeing all of this.</p><p></p><p>Corporate media at it's best. Why blame the citizens?</p><p></p><p>> Also I was taught from a young age if you have not done anything wrong and someone with authority asks you to do something be nice and do it. Show respect get respect.</p><p></p><p>Yet, the officers that approach your car today are not the officers that used to approach my car 40 years ago. Now they look more like military than the regular (cops) guys who used to approach.</p><p></p><p>> Since these incidents have happened I have seen a shift in the perception of young people that they can do what they want and law enforcement can't do a thing about it. Disrespect is becoming the norm.</p><p></p><p>As recent news shows, this goes both ways. Death on the street for selling a single cigarette without paying the government "their" due is not what we faced years ago. So is it only the youth of today that have lost respect? I don't want to paint all LEOs with the same brush. But they should't paint any citizen with such a broad brush as to suspend any life for such a minor event.</p><p></p><p>> And for the comment above, where the cop had no right to ask for your identification, well you are sitting behind the wheel of a motor vehicle at 10:45 on the shoulder or right of way of a public street, then yes you must be a licensed driver and you must in my state produce a license to confirm that.</p><p></p><p>Now it's suspicious just because someone is out in public in a car? It appears that LEOs feel that every person is suspicious just because they are out in public. Is it just the public's attitude that has changed?</p><p></p><p>> Just as if you go through a license check, I can ask to see your license because you are on a public street or highway.</p><p></p><p>I guess you and your department haven't had the time to read many of the last decade's court decisions yet. I believe the Supreme Court has a different opinion on this.</p><p></p><p>> By the way I have found two alzheimers or dementia patients that have gotten behind the wheel and not known how to get back home simply by stopping behind a car at night on the side of the road. I got no media attention for returning them safely! Imagine that!</p><p></p><p>Okay, let me say, Good Boy! Thank you for doing your job. How often do you go out of your way to thank the people that help you and wait on you everyday?</p><p></p><p>> Most law enforcement officers do have the good of society in mind.</p><p></p><p>But those aren't the officers that hit the news media. That is not the public's fault. Stop blaming us.</p><p></p><p>> There are bad eggs in every job that involves interaction with the public.</p><p></p><p>Meaning, not every cop is good but we shouldn't make a big deal about the bad LEOs because it makes all of you look bad? Sounds a lot like what the public is saying to you.</p><p></p><p>I'm lucky, I live in a small town with regular guys and gals that are LEOs. They live in our neighborhoods. It's rare when we have issues here. They don't shoot people or kill people for minor offenses. They are respectful also.</p><p></p><p>Would I consent to a car search because they asked? No. Would I be as happy with them and volunteer to be detained to "check my ID" because I'm walking on a public street returning from my mailbox? No. Would I be as happy with our great department if they started acting the fools like some in some departments? No.</p><p></p><p>We need to remember that they are more likely to die driving to and from work than on the job. When they start claiming that they are in such a dangerous profession, I loose respect for them because they are just trying to puff up their own chests. Being married to a minority, I see the difference. Not being a minority I see things differently.</p><p></p><p>PS: A final issue with LEOs in this day and age. Having an Autistic son, I fear you for him more than you will hopefully ever understand.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gimpyrancher, post: 1203354, member: 10164"] ifarm26, > If the "media," and I put about as much faith in them as I do a rabid skunk, While you don't want us to judge all LE in the same light, you do that above. LEOs are just like the rest of us. > would shed light on the good and not the bad, we probably would not be seeing all of this. Corporate media at it's best. Why blame the citizens? > Also I was taught from a young age if you have not done anything wrong and someone with authority asks you to do something be nice and do it. Show respect get respect. Yet, the officers that approach your car today are not the officers that used to approach my car 40 years ago. Now they look more like military than the regular (cops) guys who used to approach. > Since these incidents have happened I have seen a shift in the perception of young people that they can do what they want and law enforcement can't do a thing about it. Disrespect is becoming the norm. As recent news shows, this goes both ways. Death on the street for selling a single cigarette without paying the government "their" due is not what we faced years ago. So is it only the youth of today that have lost respect? I don't want to paint all LEOs with the same brush. But they should't paint any citizen with such a broad brush as to suspend any life for such a minor event. > And for the comment above, where the cop had no right to ask for your identification, well you are sitting behind the wheel of a motor vehicle at 10:45 on the shoulder or right of way of a public street, then yes you must be a licensed driver and you must in my state produce a license to confirm that. Now it's suspicious just because someone is out in public in a car? It appears that LEOs feel that every person is suspicious just because they are out in public. Is it just the public's attitude that has changed? > Just as if you go through a license check, I can ask to see your license because you are on a public street or highway. I guess you and your department haven't had the time to read many of the last decade's court decisions yet. I believe the Supreme Court has a different opinion on this. > By the way I have found two alzheimers or dementia patients that have gotten behind the wheel and not known how to get back home simply by stopping behind a car at night on the side of the road. I got no media attention for returning them safely! Imagine that! Okay, let me say, Good Boy! Thank you for doing your job. How often do you go out of your way to thank the people that help you and wait on you everyday? > Most law enforcement officers do have the good of society in mind. But those aren't the officers that hit the news media. That is not the public's fault. Stop blaming us. > There are bad eggs in every job that involves interaction with the public. Meaning, not every cop is good but we shouldn't make a big deal about the bad LEOs because it makes all of you look bad? Sounds a lot like what the public is saying to you. I'm lucky, I live in a small town with regular guys and gals that are LEOs. They live in our neighborhoods. It's rare when we have issues here. They don't shoot people or kill people for minor offenses. They are respectful also. Would I consent to a car search because they asked? No. Would I be as happy with them and volunteer to be detained to "check my ID" because I'm walking on a public street returning from my mailbox? No. Would I be as happy with our great department if they started acting the fools like some in some departments? No. We need to remember that they are more likely to die driving to and from work than on the job. When they start claiming that they are in such a dangerous profession, I loose respect for them because they are just trying to puff up their own chests. Being married to a minority, I see the difference. Not being a minority I see things differently. PS: A final issue with LEOs in this day and age. Having an Autistic son, I fear you for him more than you will hopefully ever understand. [/QUOTE]
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