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<blockquote data-quote="Jogeephus" data-source="post: 1197944" data-attributes="member: 4362"><p>Hoss, I agree with everything you said except I disagree with you about the use of excessive force. No one has the right to resist arrest so it was Garner who escalated the issue. I agree its a petty crime and could have been handled as such but Garner did not allow it. Instead backup had to be called and it ended badly for him. </p><p></p><p>Now lets stop and consider something. Why did he escalate matters the way he did when he'd been arrested for this before and he knew the routine? Am I the only one who wonders why Garner's buddy and partner in crime was the one who filmed the whole thing? Where is the rest of the footage filmed prior to the arrival of backup? How long did he resist arrest and escalate things? All that is left out? Was this intentionally? Were the two working together trying to breed more racial disturbance or were they fishing for a check? Was this whole thing staged? </p><p></p><p>A year or so ago I had an altercation with a young cop who thought he could run over me. I stood my ground and gave him a tongue lashing he didn't expect. I could tell he was about to wet his pants but I wasn't threatening him only speaking the truth and citing the law and his failure to do his job. Though I had the upper hand and was winning the argument I saw him put his hand on his taser at which time I backed down and did the "yes sir no sir" routine. I'm not stupid and I knew when he grabbed his taser I was going to lose this battle so I conceded and took the bullshyt ticket and left only to fight my battle elsewhere. In short, I didn't pay the ticket and he is no longer an officer here - not just because of me but because of more people like me who reported him. Sure my rights were violated but this just because we live in a stupid world with stupid people and its our choice whether we want to be stupid or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jogeephus, post: 1197944, member: 4362"] Hoss, I agree with everything you said except I disagree with you about the use of excessive force. No one has the right to resist arrest so it was Garner who escalated the issue. I agree its a petty crime and could have been handled as such but Garner did not allow it. Instead backup had to be called and it ended badly for him. Now lets stop and consider something. Why did he escalate matters the way he did when he'd been arrested for this before and he knew the routine? Am I the only one who wonders why Garner's buddy and partner in crime was the one who filmed the whole thing? Where is the rest of the footage filmed prior to the arrival of backup? How long did he resist arrest and escalate things? All that is left out? Was this intentionally? Were the two working together trying to breed more racial disturbance or were they fishing for a check? Was this whole thing staged? A year or so ago I had an altercation with a young cop who thought he could run over me. I stood my ground and gave him a tongue lashing he didn't expect. I could tell he was about to wet his pants but I wasn't threatening him only speaking the truth and citing the law and his failure to do his job. Though I had the upper hand and was winning the argument I saw him put his hand on his taser at which time I backed down and did the "yes sir no sir" routine. I'm not stupid and I knew when he grabbed his taser I was going to lose this battle so I conceded and took the bullshyt ticket and left only to fight my battle elsewhere. In short, I didn't pay the ticket and he is no longer an officer here - not just because of me but because of more people like me who reported him. Sure my rights were violated but this just because we live in a stupid world with stupid people and its our choice whether we want to be stupid or not. [/QUOTE]
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