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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 750109" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>novaman,</p><p>The bull studs post the breed average epds in their catalogs - some have 'em at the bottom of each page, some have them in the back of the catalog. Some indicate whether a bull ranks in the top 25% of epds for a particular trait, while others indicate what percentile( top 1%, 5%, 10%, etc.) a bull ranks in for epds for that trait.</p><p></p><p>Most of the Angus bulls(or their sons) that we used back in the '80s(Lovana, Pine Drive Big Sky, etc.), aren't too impressive if you compare them to the growth, marbling, ribeye epds of many of the current 'hot' AI sires, and probably wouldn't 'make the cut' today to be a top-selling sire, but they sired some good cattle in their day. For instance, I wouldn't necessarily shy away from a bull like Lovana, as he'd probably sire some females that would work quite nicely in my herd, but his steer calves wouldn't bring what those sired by my current natural service sire do, as they likely wouldn't have the growth or 'carcass' traits of those sired by the bull 'on the ground'.</p><p>Different environments and different goals call for different tools. My choice for a 'terminal' sire, whose calves will all be sold as weaned calves, will be a lot different than if I'm trying to breed productive, economical cows that I hope will stay in the herd for a long time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 750109, member: 12607"] novaman, The bull studs post the breed average epds in their catalogs - some have 'em at the bottom of each page, some have them in the back of the catalog. Some indicate whether a bull ranks in the top 25% of epds for a particular trait, while others indicate what percentile( top 1%, 5%, 10%, etc.) a bull ranks in for epds for that trait. Most of the Angus bulls(or their sons) that we used back in the '80s(Lovana, Pine Drive Big Sky, etc.), aren't too impressive if you compare them to the growth, marbling, ribeye epds of many of the current 'hot' AI sires, and probably wouldn't 'make the cut' today to be a top-selling sire, but they sired some good cattle in their day. For instance, I wouldn't necessarily shy away from a bull like Lovana, as he'd probably sire some females that would work quite nicely in my herd, but his steer calves wouldn't bring what those sired by my current natural service sire do, as they likely wouldn't have the growth or 'carcass' traits of those sired by the bull 'on the ground'. Different environments and different goals call for different tools. My choice for a 'terminal' sire, whose calves will all be sold as weaned calves, will be a lot different than if I'm trying to breed productive, economical cows that I hope will stay in the herd for a long time. [/QUOTE]
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