Stocker Steve
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Sounds like GM busted a move and we are all going to be driving a EV. Biden should be happy. Good thing I am not a corn farmer... Is it time to dump my ethanol shares and buy some solar panels?
Electric Pickups ?
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Don't let an EV scare you. They have the potential to be really great in the next few years. A lot of the parts are becoming common and some power modules can be purchased off the shelf.
As far as abandoning oil and corn my greatest concern is that the fed will drop the grain subsidies due to environmental pressures not realizing the consequences.
As far as abandoning oil and corn my greatest concern is that the fed will drop the grain subsidies due to environmental pressures not realizing the consequences.
KAstocker
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The people that got rich during the gold rush weren't the miners. Buy the things that are required to make the solar panels and electric vehicles.
Are these electric trucks supposed to be very powerful?
Are these electric trucks supposed to be very powerful?
Does it come with a 7" tailpipe to appease all of the teenagers?The future vehicle. A 2025 Honda Accord may look a lot like this.
It is optional along with the lift kit and mags.
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Lee VanRoss
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I: can see it on a mud road,,,,,,,,,,,NOT!
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Caught a segment on the radio yesterday where they discussed electric semis. Sounds like They can make them powerful enough, but lack of infrastructure is keeping them off the road for now. It takes a heck of a charging station, and most of the country is going to have to update the power grid to accommodate the demand.
Also worth noting that the United States isn't driving this decision from GM. China is the top market in the world for new vehicles, and they will be banning the sale of gas and diesel powered cars in 2035. Some European countries are banning by 2030. US automakers will be making the switch to keep their cars on foreign markets, regardless of US policy.
Mud on those panel will not work out very good.
Hopefully by then they will drive their self also. That is what I want, if I am still covering oxygen to CO2 by then..
WFfarm
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electricity is not free...
Electric car charge station run on diesel generator.
Electric car charge station run on diesel generator.
Buck Randall
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Agreed. I'll be willing to pay plenty for a reliable autonomous vehicle.
Stocker Steve
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Electric utility tractors are being used in California. It will take a while for them to get here. I think electric pickups will arrive first.
I seen a documentary over a year ago where a semi drove itself from the East coast across the U.S. to the West coast fully loaded by itself. Did have a drive along for the ride incase something went wrong.
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Buck: You could have a reliabe autonomous vehicle right now if you want to lay out the shekels.
''That'll be a cash on the barrelhead son, not a fourth not half but the entire sum"............
No money down, no credit plan, Just cash on the barrelhead, I'll take you down the road....
Where is Del Reeves when you need him?
''That'll be a cash on the barrelhead son, not a fourth not half but the entire sum"............
No money down, no credit plan, Just cash on the barrelhead, I'll take you down the road....
Where is Del Reeves when you need him?
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I think that would be true if I drove a lot of interstate or city miles. I don't know what kind of mapping system the autonomous vehicles use, but if it's as accurate as Google maps around here, I'd give it a week before I ended up in a lake.
I haven’t looked into the grid capabilities off the rest of the country but Texas is barely able to keep up with power demands on a hot summer day. Renewables are making the power market unstable because more want to buy wind or solar but both are unpredictable. Nobody is building new gas plants because investors want renewable energy and coal is going away. Now we are going to go to all electric vehicles. No charging infrastructure and not enough power on the grid to support 10% of the ev charging needs. I’m not saying we won’t go to all electric at some point but it won’t be in the next 5-15 yrs.
The semis are keeping the batteries in the trailers. The plan is to drop the trailer hook on to a full one while the other gets unloaded and recharged. The problem is reduced load capacity due to room and weight of batteries. I guess we’ll end up with about 30% more trucks on the road to carry the same product. Sounds like a excellent plan to me. They will get this sorted out but not anytime soon.
The semis are keeping the batteries in the trailers. The plan is to drop the trailer hook on to a full one while the other gets unloaded and recharged. The problem is reduced load capacity due to room and weight of batteries. I guess we’ll end up with about 30% more trucks on the road to carry the same product. Sounds like a excellent plan to me. They will get this sorted out but not anytime soon.
skyhightree1
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government motors has no choice but to do whatever the govt said after them getting bailed out. FORD ALL DAY
RDFF
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Don't forget the spinner hubcaps and the subwoofer!
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Our engineering colleges need to be working on battery technology and motor/battery interfacing or intergrating as the case may be.
An alternator application that would allow the main battery to recharge while in use would extend the distance of travel between inrterims
of service. This could be driven by wind resistance, ground or shaft drive or combination thereof and automatically shut off on an up incline
and restart on level or down hill grade. If we can think of it we can do it. This does not apply to the Lifting a turd by the clean end crowd,,,,,
An alternator application that would allow the main battery to recharge while in use would extend the distance of travel between inrterims
of service. This could be driven by wind resistance, ground or shaft drive or combination thereof and automatically shut off on an up incline
and restart on level or down hill grade. If we can think of it we can do it. This does not apply to the Lifting a turd by the clean end crowd,,,,,
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The big power units won't be what you're thinking... with battery only power. They're going to be a "hybrid", run on a fuel cell, which can burn about anything. They'll be set up like a locomotive is, with big batteries mounted down low in between the frame, and an electric motor either in the drive wheels, or driving a differential, but the rest of the driveline will be eliminated completely. These are already being made, but not "launched" for general public so far.
Cat has an electric drive D7 operating in the field now. Deere has been working on an electric tractor with the same technology. These use a diesel engine to power the generator, just like a locomotive does. "Advantage" is elimination of alot of power transmission components, and a much steadier power demand. Engine never has to produce ALL of the power demanded by high load peaks, just the "average" power required, which means that the diesel or fuel cell is only needed to produce maybe 25% of high load demands overall, depending on the type of load. If you're going to be climbing up a mountain all day long, you'll need a larger power output on the motor.... so you'll have to crank it up alot more, but if you're just running down a level road, you require WAY less power than your "high load demands" require. Diesel engine will be running at a steady just above idle state, rather than revving up for high power all the time, and overall, you can get away with a much smaller, lighter engine.
Battery "charges" on the go constantly, can recharge to "full" when parked on it's own, or you can plug it in when you get to your destination too. Engine starts when battery is down to 50% of capacity, and keeps it there, based on your "rolling average" power consumption needs. Efficiency of the engine, even with normal diesel power, is much more efficient.
I doubt that any of this will save us any $$ though!
Cat has an electric drive D7 operating in the field now. Deere has been working on an electric tractor with the same technology. These use a diesel engine to power the generator, just like a locomotive does. "Advantage" is elimination of alot of power transmission components, and a much steadier power demand. Engine never has to produce ALL of the power demanded by high load peaks, just the "average" power required, which means that the diesel or fuel cell is only needed to produce maybe 25% of high load demands overall, depending on the type of load. If you're going to be climbing up a mountain all day long, you'll need a larger power output on the motor.... so you'll have to crank it up alot more, but if you're just running down a level road, you require WAY less power than your "high load demands" require. Diesel engine will be running at a steady just above idle state, rather than revving up for high power all the time, and overall, you can get away with a much smaller, lighter engine.
Battery "charges" on the go constantly, can recharge to "full" when parked on it's own, or you can plug it in when you get to your destination too. Engine starts when battery is down to 50% of capacity, and keeps it there, based on your "rolling average" power consumption needs. Efficiency of the engine, even with normal diesel power, is much more efficient.
I doubt that any of this will save us any $$ though!
