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The property I am in contract to buy has hit a snag
The attorney has discovered there was a drilling mud disposal pit on the property about 12 years ago
The pit is lined then covered with 3' of soil and vegetation established per law
The concern is environmental contamination if the liner were to rupture and leak
I being the owner would be liable for the environmental damages, clean up and etc.

What are the possible damages from drilling mud ?
 
In some oil and gas fields drilling mud has actually been distributed across pasture land and plowed in. I understand it grows some very nice grass. There are a few regulations related to it such as having a berm around the field for a certain length of time etc. but unless things have changed they're still doing it. I doubt drilling mud was stored there permanently....only stored temporarily. Usually they are pumped out and filled in or even converted into a tank after the well is completed.
 
I read the requirements as to what is allowed in the pit as far as the maximum amount of chloride, drilling fluids, cuttings and etc and its very minimal, but I don't know squat about it either.
They test the water a couple time a year for contamination, but in theory there should be a problem as long as the liner doesn't rupture.

I am concerned because I don't know the possibilities to weigh the risk
 
Is the large pieceof land you were looking into?? If so is it located more in the center of the tract of land so contamination to adjoining properties would be less likely? Also...any chance the O&G company would come in, remove everything and haul it off and refill the hole??
 
TexasBred":rq8zpgr6 said:
Is the large pieceof land you were looking into?? If so is it located more in the center of the tract of land so contamination to adjoining properties would be less likely? Also...any chance the O&G company would come in, remove everything and haul it off and refill the hole??

The property to the north, about a 100 yds across the fence they are filling pits with mud right now as we speak
It seems to be a common practice
I just don't want to get hung with a big lawsuit and be financially liable in case of a problem
 
Cross

Get a copy of the agreement between the landowner and the oil co and have an experienced O&G attorney review it. Hopefully it has a hold harmless and indemnity agreement in favor of the landowner that will transfer to you. Sounds like this is a pretty common practice in the area and would think EPA, etc would have very tough and thorough requirements for this. If done properly, would doubt this would ever be a problem unless the barrier is physically damaged.
 
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There's been quite a lot of publicity in this area about marginal farms being improved with the incorporation of drilling waste.
The long shot of it is that no environmental damage can be identified and the milk company has decided it is not in their interests to collect milk from those farms.
Something about the continual testing of the potential (and at present not detectable at any level of concern) contaminants being too onerous. In reality the bad press probably has a lot to do with it.
 
Texas PaPaw":12nqbpp7 said:
Cross

Get a copy of the agreement between the landowner and the oil co and have an experienced O&G attorney review it. Hopefully it has a hold harmless and indemnity agreement in favor of the landowner that will transfer to you. Sounds like this is a pretty common practice in the area and would think EPA, etc would have very tough and thorough requirements for this. If done properly, would doubt this would ever be a problem unless the barrier is physically damaged.

Thanks I'll have him look into it
 
1st, define "drilling mud". That, can mean anything. Normally, back in the day anyway, drilling mud was a mixture of
a. fresh water (I didn't say potable water)
b. natural Wyoming benonite (a type of clay used for viscosity changes--makes the mud thicker when added to water)
c. Barite, for adjusting the weight/gal of the mud. Proper name is Baryte--it's a natural ore, processed and ground to a fine powder--chemically inert.

d. possibly some thinners or de-flocculants in case the mud starts getting too thick from the material being drilled (lignite, plant tannins, lignosufonates, and synthetic polymers)

e. Some surfactants, wetting agents, lubricants, defoamers, or corrosion inhibitors. Very little of each or any of these are used --a pretty minor concern overall.

f. Some bridging materials--helps build up wall cake on the sides of the wellbore. The ones I remember are wood by products, and paper--cellulose fibers. Calcium Carbonate too--ground oyster shells.
f1. Might be some lost circulation material left in the old mud too--ground walnut shells, chopped up paper, mica--most of that gets stuck to the wall of the hole, or is cleaned out in the mud cleaning equipment--natural stuff anyway.

Most of the above are 100% organic. Lignosulfonate for instance sounds scary but it is also used as a plasticizer in concrete, and is an ingredient in almost all sheetrock and stucco. You have some in your house I'm pretty sure.

Then you get into the man made ingredients.

g. Caustic soda beads and caustic potash to increase PH in the mud, soda ash to remove hardness in the mud, maybe some sodium chloride. Maybe some inorganic corrosion inhibitors, 02 scavenger--not much of this is used--trickled into a mud tan, not poured in by the barrel. In a barrel of used mud, these wold be in very low percentages--less than 1% I would guess.

h. depending where they were drilling, and what came out of the hole, might be some salt. Companies are supposed to check it for sodium content before letting it loose to be landfarmed.
Might also have some Black Magic type stuff in it, but they try to recoup that too. It's a black gooey stuff they pump down if the pipe is sticking. Very expensive.

Oil base mud is a different story. As far as I know, it isn't land farmed. It's so expensive, that the biggest majority of it is collected and recycled to use on another job.

Frac fluid--I don't know about.
 
It just stated drilling mud disposal pits
I'm going to say there was probably some brine based on the vegetation damage so again my assumption would be the brine/salt leaking through the liner into he ground water is the main concern
I don't see it as a problem for what I intend it for but I am not willing to assume he liability for possible contamination
Whoever is liable now can't account for something I might do later down the line, say I drilled through liner for a post hole or a water well ruptured the liner

Funny thing is there are the big two pole power lines that comes right across the area were the pit is
I wonder how they kept from rupturing the liner ?

I'm just wondering if there really is a possibility of contamination
 
If it was me and everything seemed above board I would go ahead, it wouldn't worry me. The big problem I see is if you want to offload it down the track and from what I have observed you seem to like to turn over your property on a regular basis. I think you would have the same problem with potential buyers getting cold feet and pulling out of a sale.
Ken
 
I spoke with an environmental consultant and he said the operator that installed the pits are responsible forever and the only way I would be liable was if my actions caused the pit to fail and caused contamination.
He said even if the liner were to fail there shouldn't be anything in the pit that could cause a problem unless somehow someone put something hazardous in the pit and wasn't caught by the operator or the inspectors and the liner ruptured and it seeped to the ground water, but he said the chances of that are near zero.

He said it has been inspected, approved, and closed according to the state of Oklahoma and he wouldn't hesitate purchasing the property because of the pits
 

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