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<blockquote data-quote="stocky" data-source="post: 299482" data-attributes="member: 1150"><p>"We need to tap nuclear, hydro and wind for power. We have over half the worlds known coal reserves and the technology to liquidfy it. We haven proven oil reserves off the East, West and Fla coast, that are not being drilled because not in my backyard the same with refineries."</p><p></p><p></p><p> Those are some real important words for everyone to consider from Camp.</p><p> None of this has been done for 40 years because of the political power of the groups that dont want anything done close to them but they want all the benefits. Because of these same people, we refuse to drill for oil in Alaska and off our coasts, but other countries are coming in with less safegaurds and taking the oil. So we pay out the nose for oil in the middle east and China and Russia come in and takes the oil that we should have and they will flood our beaches with oil spills because we have no control over their safety standards, but we will pay to clean it up and none of these politicians who are blocking our use of the oil will ever be held accountable.</p><p> Hydro power is limited because there probably wont be any new dams built. I can understand alot of the areas being off limit to dams, but there are many other areas that could be used, but there are environmental and animal issues that hold them up. No one wants a wind farm close to them. So it is back to "I want everything, but getting it, cant affect something that is in my area, even though I dont own it or pay taxes on it."</p><p> As water becomes more valuable, you can bet that there will be a way to make us pay for water from our own wells. Anything that has value will be taxed by the government in time. This last election and the next one in 2 years will hasten the elimination of private property rights like we have never seen before. As more liberal and anti property judges take the bench, the property we sweat and bleed and pay for will be under the control of others, and it is already to some extent with zoning laws.</p><p> You have seen alot of differing opinions and that is a small sample of why farmers have never been able to get together on anything as a group. What is good for grain farmers is bad for beef, dairy, hogs, and chicken. Many things that are good for beef are bad for hogs and chicken. A huge supply of chicken is bad for beef. A huge supply of slaughter dairy animals is bad for beef farmers. In essence, farmers are pitted against each other.</p><p> As corn prices rise, the acreage planted will increase drastically. Also, just like with beef, if corn gets very high, there will be an opening of the borders to corn from Brazil and other countries to knock the price down.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stocky, post: 299482, member: 1150"] "We need to tap nuclear, hydro and wind for power. We have over half the worlds known coal reserves and the technology to liquidfy it. We haven proven oil reserves off the East, West and Fla coast, that are not being drilled because not in my backyard the same with refineries." Those are some real important words for everyone to consider from Camp. None of this has been done for 40 years because of the political power of the groups that dont want anything done close to them but they want all the benefits. Because of these same people, we refuse to drill for oil in Alaska and off our coasts, but other countries are coming in with less safegaurds and taking the oil. So we pay out the nose for oil in the middle east and China and Russia come in and takes the oil that we should have and they will flood our beaches with oil spills because we have no control over their safety standards, but we will pay to clean it up and none of these politicians who are blocking our use of the oil will ever be held accountable. Hydro power is limited because there probably wont be any new dams built. I can understand alot of the areas being off limit to dams, but there are many other areas that could be used, but there are environmental and animal issues that hold them up. No one wants a wind farm close to them. So it is back to "I want everything, but getting it, cant affect something that is in my area, even though I dont own it or pay taxes on it." As water becomes more valuable, you can bet that there will be a way to make us pay for water from our own wells. Anything that has value will be taxed by the government in time. This last election and the next one in 2 years will hasten the elimination of private property rights like we have never seen before. As more liberal and anti property judges take the bench, the property we sweat and bleed and pay for will be under the control of others, and it is already to some extent with zoning laws. You have seen alot of differing opinions and that is a small sample of why farmers have never been able to get together on anything as a group. What is good for grain farmers is bad for beef, dairy, hogs, and chicken. Many things that are good for beef are bad for hogs and chicken. A huge supply of chicken is bad for beef. A huge supply of slaughter dairy animals is bad for beef farmers. In essence, farmers are pitted against each other. As corn prices rise, the acreage planted will increase drastically. Also, just like with beef, if corn gets very high, there will be an opening of the borders to corn from Brazil and other countries to knock the price down. [/QUOTE]
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