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<blockquote data-quote="Chuckie" data-source="post: 84566" data-attributes="member: 637"><p>Dun, the reason I have been looking at the Durana so close is that the protein level of white clover is much higher than the red clover. From the pasture book of grass and legumes, it shows red clover to have the same protein level of orchard grass. It shows red clover to have 18.3 Protein and Digestable Protein of 13.1. Aslike Protein 18.1 and Dig. Protein is 12.9. Crimson clover is less than the above. Orchard grass at the fresh growing stage to be 18.4 Protein and Digestable P. to be 13.1. Of course it can go as low as 8.4 Pr. and DP to 3.7 if you have it under grazed and it gets tall in the milk stage. </p><p>The white clovers show 24.7 Protein and 18.5 Dig. Protein. </p><p>Several years ago, I planted Orchard grass, red clover, and lespedeza. The man that sold the seed, tell me that the red clover would eventually turn into white clover. I didn't think much about it at the time. I had a beautiful stand of the grass and clover, and where there was a thin spot, the lespedeza stood strong. Also, on tops of hills, when the weather would warm up, the lespedza would show up there. After a few years, the red clover started thinning out and white clover showing up. I guess the red clover I planted might have been crossed with white clover cross somewhere along the way to produce the strain. He also told me that red clover was much like alfalfa in growing in the same plot, to lose it's stand after a while. I didn't try to reseed the red clover since the pasture was so good and everything was so fat.</p><p>I will still plant orchard grass, a good fescue, red clover, durana, and lespedeza in the new pasture, but will probably use it for hay the first year or so until the durana gets established. It says it is an undergrowth for the first year or so until it takes hold, then it shows up with the other grasses. Then in the other plot, I will plant only Durana and bermuda grass, since red clover doesn't compete well with bermuda. If there is a strain that does, I would also plant it.</p><p>Another thing I was told that the bermudas that have been crossed with common bermudas, will revert to common bermuda after several years. I like common bermuda. They say Tifton, etc... will eventually turn back to common bermuda after several years. Why and how, I don't know. I didn't realize it produced a fertile seed to sprout, unless from the roots, it just loses the weaker gene. I would like to find some info on it to see if it is true. If anyone knows of a site that supports this theroy, I would like to know. I do like common bermuda and will probably plant it it with the Durana. The common bermuda here is really thick and stands well. I do not fertilize my yard, and if there is any moisture in the ground, and there is a solid stand, I have to go to a lower gear to mow it. That is what I want in the hay field for sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chuckie, post: 84566, member: 637"] Dun, the reason I have been looking at the Durana so close is that the protein level of white clover is much higher than the red clover. From the pasture book of grass and legumes, it shows red clover to have the same protein level of orchard grass. It shows red clover to have 18.3 Protein and Digestable Protein of 13.1. Aslike Protein 18.1 and Dig. Protein is 12.9. Crimson clover is less than the above. Orchard grass at the fresh growing stage to be 18.4 Protein and Digestable P. to be 13.1. Of course it can go as low as 8.4 Pr. and DP to 3.7 if you have it under grazed and it gets tall in the milk stage. The white clovers show 24.7 Protein and 18.5 Dig. Protein. Several years ago, I planted Orchard grass, red clover, and lespedeza. The man that sold the seed, tell me that the red clover would eventually turn into white clover. I didn't think much about it at the time. I had a beautiful stand of the grass and clover, and where there was a thin spot, the lespedeza stood strong. Also, on tops of hills, when the weather would warm up, the lespedza would show up there. After a few years, the red clover started thinning out and white clover showing up. I guess the red clover I planted might have been crossed with white clover cross somewhere along the way to produce the strain. He also told me that red clover was much like alfalfa in growing in the same plot, to lose it's stand after a while. I didn't try to reseed the red clover since the pasture was so good and everything was so fat. I will still plant orchard grass, a good fescue, red clover, durana, and lespedeza in the new pasture, but will probably use it for hay the first year or so until the durana gets established. It says it is an undergrowth for the first year or so until it takes hold, then it shows up with the other grasses. Then in the other plot, I will plant only Durana and bermuda grass, since red clover doesn't compete well with bermuda. If there is a strain that does, I would also plant it. Another thing I was told that the bermudas that have been crossed with common bermudas, will revert to common bermuda after several years. I like common bermuda. They say Tifton, etc... will eventually turn back to common bermuda after several years. Why and how, I don't know. I didn't realize it produced a fertile seed to sprout, unless from the roots, it just loses the weaker gene. I would like to find some info on it to see if it is true. If anyone knows of a site that supports this theroy, I would like to know. I do like common bermuda and will probably plant it it with the Durana. The common bermuda here is really thick and stands well. I do not fertilize my yard, and if there is any moisture in the ground, and there is a solid stand, I have to go to a lower gear to mow it. That is what I want in the hay field for sure. [/QUOTE]
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