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<blockquote data-quote="jerry27150" data-source="post: 102909" data-attributes="member: 1177"><p>chuckie, the old man never did anything to his cattle & they were the healtiest & wildest you ever seen. never wormed any of mine til i moved to mo. asked an old vet about worming some when i first started farming on my own & he said all develop an immunity to worms by the time they are two, so not to waste my money. old vet i use now says the same thing. another old vet later when i started buying feeder cattle told me if they looked healthy don't bother worming. i am sure all cattle will carry some worms, but most cattle they do not bother. dung beeltles are something i learned about in the last three years & they are about the only thing i use now. i have less flies now than when i sprayed & used ivomec. my pastures seem to produce more than they ever have, with a lot of earthworms now. they make it hard for flies & worms to survive in the manure. i may use cydectin on a few steers now sometimes, but not too often. i have studied most of those sites also. i am one who is not afraid to ask higher up people for advice & if i have a problem i may even get help from universities. quite a few years ago company came out with some bacteria to make corn silage ferment faster. some guys were using it, so i asked dick adams of penn state if it would help. he said he shouldn't say it,but if you climb up & spit in it it would do just as much good. chemicals co. are good at brainwashing everyone. nature usually takes care of it's own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jerry27150, post: 102909, member: 1177"] chuckie, the old man never did anything to his cattle & they were the healtiest & wildest you ever seen. never wormed any of mine til i moved to mo. asked an old vet about worming some when i first started farming on my own & he said all develop an immunity to worms by the time they are two, so not to waste my money. old vet i use now says the same thing. another old vet later when i started buying feeder cattle told me if they looked healthy don't bother worming. i am sure all cattle will carry some worms, but most cattle they do not bother. dung beeltles are something i learned about in the last three years & they are about the only thing i use now. i have less flies now than when i sprayed & used ivomec. my pastures seem to produce more than they ever have, with a lot of earthworms now. they make it hard for flies & worms to survive in the manure. i may use cydectin on a few steers now sometimes, but not too often. i have studied most of those sites also. i am one who is not afraid to ask higher up people for advice & if i have a problem i may even get help from universities. quite a few years ago company came out with some bacteria to make corn silage ferment faster. some guys were using it, so i asked dick adams of penn state if it would help. he said he shouldn't say it,but if you climb up & spit in it it would do just as much good. chemicals co. are good at brainwashing everyone. nature usually takes care of it's own. [/QUOTE]
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