mtnman":cnb3fewt said:Frankie:
You are assuming the Angus animals in the control are "bad" Angus. They may, or may not be.
mtnman
Some packers don't even bother to run the double muscled breeds down the line, they automatically no roll them.
Reread the article. "Carcass marbling was scored on an inverse 10-point scale where a score of '1' is maximum marbling and a score of '10' is zero marbling."mtnman":2ha8t55h said:frankie:
No mention is given at to what the numbers 1-10 mean.
Therefore, we have no idea what good or bad is. It looks bad, only because it is nearer to 10 than 1.
But, we have no idea what the number means.
We just know that they weren't different from the average of the other groups, which is a good thing, from Mike's standpoint.
No mind-reading necessary, just common sense.
mtnman
mtnman":7mkboi0e said:frankie:
No mention is given at to what the numbers 1-10 mean.
Therefore, we have no idea what good or bad is. It looks bad, only because it is nearer to 10 than 1.
But, we have no idea what the number means.
We just know that they weren't different from the average of the other groups, which is a good thing, from Mike's standpoint.
No mind-reading necessary, just common sense.
mtnman
MikeC":eeuaucpr said:Some packers don't even bother to run the double muscled breeds down the line, they automatically no roll them.
Some packers don't grade ANYTHING.
If their customer is confident in a packers grading system why would they pay extra for grading?
Point is, it wouldn't make sense to no roll them JUST because they are doubled muscled.
Brandonm2":20aetv36 said:MikeC":20aetv36 said:Some packers don't even bother to run the double muscled breeds down the line, they automatically no roll them.
Some packers don't grade ANYTHING.
If their customer is confident in a packers grading system why would they pay extra for grading?
Point is, it wouldn't make sense to no roll them JUST because they are doubled muscled.
Mike, it has been years since I was taught the grading system in college; BUT, if my memory serves, Jeanne is right.....double muscling IS a an automatic disqualification no matter the marbling score. I COULD be wrong and I am not going to try to look it up; but I had thought that a grader was not allowed to stamp a obviously double muscled carcass with a Choice, Prime, or Select grade no matter the marbling and maturity. The rules MAY have changed. Double muscling is considered a genetic defect in cattle that increases dystocia problems and has been linked to lower female fertility. I know a lot of Charolais breeders fought long and hard to get rid of the double muscling gene in their cattle in the 70s and early 80s.
Brandonm2 - thanks! I was just getting ready to type about the same thing. Dbl muscle does not qualify for grading - unless (like you said) there has been some change I don't know of. Dbl m are automatically NO ROLL.Brandonm2":33azrcbr said:MikeC":33azrcbr said:Some packers don't even bother to run the double muscled breeds down the line, they automatically no roll them.
Some packers don't grade ANYTHING.
If their customer is confident in a packers grading system why would they pay extra for grading?
Point is, it wouldn't make sense to no roll them JUST because they are doubled muscled.
Mike, it has been years since I was taught the grading system in college; BUT, if my memory serves, Jeanne is right.....double muscling IS a an automatic disqualification no matter the marbling score. I COULD be wrong and I am not going to try to look it up; but I had thought that a grader was not allowed to stamp a obviously double muscled carcass with a Choice, Prime, or Select grade no matter the marbling and maturity. The rules MAY have changed. Double muscling is considered a genetic defect in cattle that increases dystocia problems and has been linked to lower female fertility. I know a lot of Charolais breeders fought long and hard to get rid of the double muscling gene in their cattle in the 70s and early 80s.
MikeC":ed1l6y8n said:I have asked for someone to show me in the "USDA Beef Grading Standards" where beef from double muscled cattle is not graded.
If it is there, I would thoroughly enjoy reading it.
I know that there is no feeder cattle grades for double muscling. But that's a whole nuther ball game.