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<blockquote data-quote="Chocolate Cow2" data-source="post: 1558284" data-attributes="member: 32644"><p>The question I've asked a lot of local guys is: "You've used SAV bulls or Sitz or Stone Gate -you fill in the blank- for 10-20-30 or more years. Why haven't those bulls improved your cows enough so you can save a few calves back to be your future herd sires?" </p><p>Branded touts SAV bulls and criticizes Ebeneezer for challenging his bragging. Ebeneezer lives in the real world and has the experience to back up what he says. Branded-the saying goes- you drank the kool-aid and believe terminal can be everything for everyone. No worries. I once believed it too. I found out the hard way how wrong it could get. </p><p>I'm skeptical of the real world value of SAV cattle. Calves are kept at the bunk, forced to eat. Hooves are trimmed before the sale. No Breeding Soundness Evaluation is done on the bulls. If you pay $5,000 or $500,000 for a bull and he's sterile or has breeding problems, you get credit at next years sale BUT you have to spend more than the original sale price to get the credit. Anytime an animal is promoted exclusively by what it sold for and/or the dollar value of it's ancestors, run away. as. fast. as. you. can. </p><p>Branded's writings over the past few months have told me all I need to know. He's a multiplier who props up his herd with exceptional inputs. Any seedstock supplier, who is truly dedicated to the commercial producer, offers animals that will go into a commercial environment and make a positive impact at the least cost. A bull should never leave daughters that require excessive inputs to stay in the herd. </p><p>Somewhere along in time, the Registered Breeder has been elevated to a higher status level and the commercial producer has been downgraded. Without the commercial guy there is no need for the registered guy. So when Branded or Jeannie-Simmi Valley talks about selling a bull for $4-8,000. and how that money allows them to do more, I hope they realize that their real responsibility is "First-do no harm."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chocolate Cow2, post: 1558284, member: 32644"] The question I've asked a lot of local guys is: "You've used SAV bulls or Sitz or Stone Gate -you fill in the blank- for 10-20-30 or more years. Why haven't those bulls improved your cows enough so you can save a few calves back to be your future herd sires?" Branded touts SAV bulls and criticizes Ebeneezer for challenging his bragging. Ebeneezer lives in the real world and has the experience to back up what he says. Branded-the saying goes- you drank the kool-aid and believe terminal can be everything for everyone. No worries. I once believed it too. I found out the hard way how wrong it could get. I'm skeptical of the real world value of SAV cattle. Calves are kept at the bunk, forced to eat. Hooves are trimmed before the sale. No Breeding Soundness Evaluation is done on the bulls. If you pay $5,000 or $500,000 for a bull and he's sterile or has breeding problems, you get credit at next years sale BUT you have to spend more than the original sale price to get the credit. Anytime an animal is promoted exclusively by what it sold for and/or the dollar value of it's ancestors, run away. as. fast. as. you. can. Branded's writings over the past few months have told me all I need to know. He's a multiplier who props up his herd with exceptional inputs. Any seedstock supplier, who is truly dedicated to the commercial producer, offers animals that will go into a commercial environment and make a positive impact at the least cost. A bull should never leave daughters that require excessive inputs to stay in the herd. Somewhere along in time, the Registered Breeder has been elevated to a higher status level and the commercial producer has been downgraded. Without the commercial guy there is no need for the registered guy. So when Branded or Jeannie-Simmi Valley talks about selling a bull for $4-8,000. and how that money allows them to do more, I hope they realize that their real responsibility is "First-do no harm." [/QUOTE]
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