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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1557543" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Haven't read through this entire thread yet, but will throw this in: </p><p>We had no idea what the endproduct of our program was like - though we've spent the last 10 years or so selecting for high ribeye, high marbling, and tenderness, in addition to above-average WW epds for whatever sire breed we've been using at a given time - whether Angus, Shorthorn, Simmental, or Braunvieh. We're not really big enough to produce a load of calves at one time; not gonna background and try to retain ownership on 20 steers in split Spring/Fall calving seasons. </p><p></p><p>5 years or so back, after using several (solid red) Shorthorn sires for a few years with the intent of making some SH-cross cows to come back over with black Simmental sires, we were recruited by a noted Shorthorn breeder to do a progeny-test breeding trial, using their hot new sire prospect, and a proven Shorthorn sire they'd also bred, which we'd been using previously(he had high Genestar scores for quality grade and tenderness). Cows here were mostly 3/4Angus-1/4Simmental; the Shorthorn breeder is noted for performance genetics... not fluff and showring stuff. </p><p>They bought back the 10 or so steers out of the Spring calf crop, backgrounded them with their own Shorthorn steers, and entered them in a steer feedout/carcass trial... 150 steers in all, mostly Shorthorn-sired, but there were a couple of groups of straight Angus and SimAngus steers in the mix. </p><p>All our steers finished in the top 50%, most were in the top 20 animals overall, and one of our calves, a Waukaru Orion 2047 out of a brown/whitefaced 3/4AN-1/4SM cow was the top steer overall: graded choice, with highest WDA, highest ADG, highest HCW, highest REA/cwt, highest % retail product, and overall most profitable. It was gratifying to see that we are producing a good quality product... but sad to know that we'll likely never get paid what these calves are really worth... too much opportunity for buyers at the local salebarns to dock the snot out of them for 'off' color - like red or brown.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1557543, member: 12607"] Haven't read through this entire thread yet, but will throw this in: We had no idea what the endproduct of our program was like - though we've spent the last 10 years or so selecting for high ribeye, high marbling, and tenderness, in addition to above-average WW epds for whatever sire breed we've been using at a given time - whether Angus, Shorthorn, Simmental, or Braunvieh. We're not really big enough to produce a load of calves at one time; not gonna background and try to retain ownership on 20 steers in split Spring/Fall calving seasons. 5 years or so back, after using several (solid red) Shorthorn sires for a few years with the intent of making some SH-cross cows to come back over with black Simmental sires, we were recruited by a noted Shorthorn breeder to do a progeny-test breeding trial, using their hot new sire prospect, and a proven Shorthorn sire they'd also bred, which we'd been using previously(he had high Genestar scores for quality grade and tenderness). Cows here were mostly 3/4Angus-1/4Simmental; the Shorthorn breeder is noted for performance genetics... not fluff and showring stuff. They bought back the 10 or so steers out of the Spring calf crop, backgrounded them with their own Shorthorn steers, and entered them in a steer feedout/carcass trial... 150 steers in all, mostly Shorthorn-sired, but there were a couple of groups of straight Angus and SimAngus steers in the mix. All our steers finished in the top 50%, most were in the top 20 animals overall, and one of our calves, a Waukaru Orion 2047 out of a brown/whitefaced 3/4AN-1/4SM cow was the top steer overall: graded choice, with highest WDA, highest ADG, highest HCW, highest REA/cwt, highest % retail product, and overall most profitable. It was gratifying to see that we are producing a good quality product... but sad to know that we'll likely never get paid what these calves are really worth... too much opportunity for buyers at the local salebarns to dock the snot out of them for 'off' color - like red or brown. [/QUOTE]
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