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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1557485" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>SAV used Coleman Charlo for one of the most successful matings in their history. They used an outside sire.</p><p></p><p>Ranches routinely use other ranches sires. </p><p></p><p>We have a SAV Harvestor son, that we bred and developed, he is going into service next month on older cows that we don't wish to Round up for AI, but are still good animals capable of producing a nice calf. His sons and daughters will registered, and I'm pretty certain will be above average. He's a homegrown bull. </p><p></p><p>When it comes time to sell bulls however, most buyers want a direct AI son. You can tell them how great your creation is, but at the end of the day they choose the AI son most of the time. </p><p></p><p>You are telling me to change the course of my program and make less per animal and inventory animals that are harder to sell, why? </p><p></p><p>I assume you really don't like ET where both sire and dam could be from different operations?</p><p></p><p>I respect what you do, nothing wrong with it, and it works according to what you have said and I trust you are being honest. </p><p></p><p>I understand residual average daily gain very well, I breed for that trait, hence one reason I like SAV genetics. </p><p></p><p>We have one bull at the moment that is almost 2600 pounds, and several of his sons are in development. They will probably be as big as him at maturity. </p><p></p><p>A 1200 pound cow might be able to handle a 2600 pound bull, but I would not use him on a cow that size.</p><p></p><p>We are working with different scenarios, nothing wrong with what you are doing or what I'm doing, What is working for you is what you should stick with in my opinion. If it ain't broke...you know the rest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1557485, member: 37967"] SAV used Coleman Charlo for one of the most successful matings in their history. They used an outside sire. Ranches routinely use other ranches sires. We have a SAV Harvestor son, that we bred and developed, he is going into service next month on older cows that we don’t wish to Round up for AI, but are still good animals capable of producing a nice calf. His sons and daughters will registered, and I’m pretty certain will be above average. He’s a homegrown bull. When it comes time to sell bulls however, most buyers want a direct AI son. You can tell them how great your creation is, but at the end of the day they choose the AI son most of the time. You are telling me to change the course of my program and make less per animal and inventory animals that are harder to sell, why? I assume you really don’t like ET where both sire and dam could be from different operations? I respect what you do, nothing wrong with it, and it works according to what you have said and I trust you are being honest. I understand residual average daily gain very well, I breed for that trait, hence one reason I like SAV genetics. We have one bull at the moment that is almost 2600 pounds, and several of his sons are in development. They will probably be as big as him at maturity. A 1200 pound cow might be able to handle a 2600 pound bull, but I would not use him on a cow that size. We are working with different scenarios, nothing wrong with what you are doing or what I’m doing, What is working for you is what you should stick with in my opinion. If it ain’t broke...you know the rest. [/QUOTE]
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