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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1557401" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>I've read all the posts and agree with some and others I think are totally wrong.</p><p></p><p>One thing is for sure, there seems to be some doubt that our steers would perform on a feedlot. Cattle too pampered and other nonsense.</p><p></p><p>We have a bull that we use when we either cannot or do not wish to AI our gals. He is a son of Apex Windbreak 622. From what I can tell Apex Angus sends a good number of steers to Poky Feeders. So I am sure Apex has some "real world data" to lean on.</p><p></p><p>Next, the bull's dam is one of the best at Stone Gate, an operation that was one of only 40 operations in the entire country to be recognized for a CAB barn painting. Probably not the easiest thing to achieve.</p><p></p><p>Now with that known, let's take a look at the bull that you guys are a bit tough on. He is top 20% for Marb epd, his $QG (QualityGrade) is top 20% as well. His CED is a +12 (top 10% of Angus breed), and his BW epd is top 4% of Angus breed. He has 17 genetic progeny on the ground with more to come, he is free of all recessives according to his DNA tests, not just by pedigree, and he is virile. </p><p></p><p>My question is this, DO YOU REALLY THINK that some fluke is going to occur when he is bred to our cows that will result in poor performers on the feedlot. If so why? What hidden issue is going to surface?</p><p></p><p>His sons that are working right now on several operations are doing so without any complaints, and the calves look nice. The sons are on herds that are not purebred Angus, they are on mixed herds.</p><p></p><p>Am I missing something, or are you guys just busting my b.....ls?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1557401, member: 37967"] I've read all the posts and agree with some and others I think are totally wrong. One thing is for sure, there seems to be some doubt that our steers would perform on a feedlot. Cattle too pampered and other nonsense. We have a bull that we use when we either cannot or do not wish to AI our gals. He is a son of Apex Windbreak 622. From what I can tell Apex Angus sends a good number of steers to Poky Feeders. So I am sure Apex has some "real world data" to lean on. Next, the bull's dam is one of the best at Stone Gate, an operation that was one of only 40 operations in the entire country to be recognized for a CAB barn painting. Probably not the easiest thing to achieve. Now with that known, let's take a look at the bull that you guys are a bit tough on. He is top 20% for Marb epd, his $QG (QualityGrade) is top 20% as well. His CED is a +12 (top 10% of Angus breed), and his BW epd is top 4% of Angus breed. He has 17 genetic progeny on the ground with more to come, he is free of all recessives according to his DNA tests, not just by pedigree, and he is virile. My question is this, DO YOU REALLY THINK that some fluke is going to occur when he is bred to our cows that will result in poor performers on the feedlot. If so why? What hidden issue is going to surface? His sons that are working right now on several operations are doing so without any complaints, and the calves look nice. The sons are on herds that are not purebred Angus, they are on mixed herds. Am I missing something, or are you guys just busting my b.....ls? [/QUOTE]
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