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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1556787" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>Pencil out? They went to the stockyards, I usually sold them in the 700-800 pound range. Our bulls are not on creep feed, and usually wean off in the 650-800 pound (adjusted 205) range. The dams play a big role, they are well cared for and raised a nice big calf, and have what they need as far as inputs to do it, almost always while settled back. </p><p></p><p>It's kind of hard to make promises on weaning weights for other producer's herds. I may have a top bull that will perform, but said producer which he is sold to may not have high-performance cows, that can raise a calf to make that bull shine. A bull can do a lot, but he is not a miracle worker. Common sense is not there with some people. They think, "hey I have this half dead cow that I bought at the yards for $300, let me put a good bull on her and watch the magic happen" Chances are very high, it never will. </p><p></p><p>I can only tell you what I'm doing, I can't make promises on a herd I've never seen, nor know anything about. I breed big, solid AI sires to cows that are a minimum of 1700 pounds. Heifers are bred to calving ease, but not extreme calving ease sires. If we do use a cleanup bull, it's the one you have seen posted, and he produces really nice calves for a non-AI sire. We will probably use our SAV President, International, and Harvestor sons from time to time as needed, and I anticipate that they will produce some very nice calves as well. </p><p></p><p>The cows in a producer's operation dictate a LOT of what happens at weaning, again, you cannot rely on the bull to do everything. I think you know that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1556787, member: 37967"] Pencil out? They went to the stockyards, I usually sold them in the 700-800 pound range. Our bulls are not on creep feed, and usually wean off in the 650-800 pound (adjusted 205) range. The dams play a big role, they are well cared for and raised a nice big calf, and have what they need as far as inputs to do it, almost always while settled back. It's kind of hard to make promises on weaning weights for other producer's herds. I may have a top bull that will perform, but said producer which he is sold to may not have high-performance cows, that can raise a calf to make that bull shine. A bull can do a lot, but he is not a miracle worker. Common sense is not there with some people. They think, "hey I have this half dead cow that I bought at the yards for $300, let me put a good bull on her and watch the magic happen" Chances are very high, it never will. I can only tell you what I'm doing, I can't make promises on a herd I've never seen, nor know anything about. I breed big, solid AI sires to cows that are a minimum of 1700 pounds. Heifers are bred to calving ease, but not extreme calving ease sires. If we do use a cleanup bull, it's the one you have seen posted, and he produces really nice calves for a non-AI sire. We will probably use our SAV President, International, and Harvestor sons from time to time as needed, and I anticipate that they will produce some very nice calves as well. The cows in a producer's operation dictate a LOT of what happens at weaning, again, you cannot rely on the bull to do everything. I think you know that. [/QUOTE]
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